Originally posted by BatTheMan
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how can Joe Calzaghe achieve P4P 1 status before retiring
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he is retiring after 2 fights how is he going to fight Pavlik ,Jones ,Dawson or Haye your expectations are way to high and unrealistic
Pacquiao has moved up in weight numerous times
Pacquiao defeated 3 hall of famers
Pacquiao defeated 3-4 green fighters (good)
Now he's taking on someone much bigger than him. There is just no way Calzaghe is going to get it. No hate.
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Originally posted by them_apples View PostThen him acheiving p4p no.1 is unrealistic.
Pacquiao has moved up in weight numerous times
Pacquiao defeated 3 hall of famers
Pacquiao defeated 3-4 green fighters (good)
Now he's taking on someone much bigger than him. There is just no way Calzaghe is going to get it. No hate.
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Originally posted by Super welsh Joe View PostPacquiao has beaten old fighters though
do you know anything? Honestly?
you must listen to mexicans or something.
Barrera and Marquez were in their Prime.
Thats funny comeing from a Calzaghe fan, who's best win was a 43 year old Hopkins.
Pacquiao during his younger years was fighting THE best in the division, not clowns like Kessler and Lacy.
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Pac is currently the WBC Lightweight Champion and WBC Super Featherweight Champion. He's a former IBF Super Bantamweight Champion and a former WBC Flyweight Champion.
He's beaten the likes of Erik Morales (twice), Marco Antonio Barrera (twice), Juan Manuel Marquez(twice) and David Diaz. Not to mention other solid opponets like Jorge Solis, and Oscar Larios.
Multiple time multiple division Champion with 3 hall of famers on his record. Calzaghe cannot beat that record.
Calzaghe only has Lacy (and we all know how amazing he is), Kessler (robot), and 1 past prime Hall of Famer on his record.
Joe would need to beat Roy, beat Pavlik, and rematch Hopkins to match that IMO.
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also Pacquiao got beat by a prime Morales and that was after his wars with MAB, by the time they fought for the second time the first fight had taken to much out of Morales
Diaz is not the best fighter out there and i think he lost to Marquez twice or at least once
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Originally posted by RightHandLead View PostPac is currently the WBC Lightweight Champion and WBC Super Featherweight Champion. He's a former IBF Super Bantamweight Champion and a former WBC Flyweight Champion.
He's beaten the likes of Erik Morales (twice), Marco Antonio Barrera (twice), Juan Manuel Marquez(twice) and David Diaz. Not to mention other solid opponets like Jorge Solis, and Oscar Larios.
Multiple time multiple division Champion with 3 hall of famers on his record. Calzaghe cannot beat that record.
Calzaghe only has Lacy (and we all know how amazing he is), Kessler (robot), and 1 past prime Hall of Famer on his record.
Joe would need to beat Roy, beat Pavlik, and rematch Hopkins to match that IMO.
And hell, by the time he did that, Manny may already have beaten Ricky Hatton and Oscar De La Hoya, so I seriously doubt Joe can touch him.
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Originally posted by Super welsh Joe View PostPacquiao has beaten old fighters though
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Originally posted by Super welsh Joe View Postalso Pacquiao got beat by a prime Morales and that was after his wars with MAB, by the time they fought for the second time the first fight had taken to much out of Morales
Diaz is not the best fighter out there and i think he lost to Marquez twice or at least once
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