how can Joe Calzaghe achieve P4P 1 status before retiring

[them_apples]

also Pacquiao got beat by a prime Morales and that was after his wars with MAB, by the time they fought for the second time the first fight had taken to much out of Morales

so what if he lost to him, it was a war..and he came back and beat Morales 2 times.

Pacquiao was the smaller man in that fight and he still put up a good fight.

He's a much better boxer now.

If Calzaghe had fought a Prime Jones, a Prime Hopkins, a Prime Toney etc he wouldn't be undefeated, no way in hell.

[Super welsh Joe]

Official records are OFFICIAL records. I think Calzaghe lost to Hopkins 114-113 and I'm not alone in that opinion, but I'm not whining.

there is still a lot of weight to my post though ,a prime Morales showed he could beat Pacquiao and Pacquiao benefitted from the hard fights Morales had been in ,also he did not beat Marquez either time from what i saw

[jmah]

Usually P4P #2 becomes #1 when the previous #1 loses or retires.

[Super welsh Joe]

so what if he lost to him, it was a war..and he came back and beat Morales 2 times.

Pacquiao was the smaller man in that fight and he still put up a good fight.

He's a much better boxer now.

If Calzaghe had fought a Prime Jones, a Prime Hopkins, a Prime Toney etc he wouldn't be undefeated, no way in hell.

does Pacquiao beat Morales twice before his wars with MAB ? no way Morales looked done in the 3rd Barrera fight

Jones maybe but Joe beats Toney and Hopkins prime for prime

[them_apples]

there is still a lot of weight to my post though ,a prime Morales showed he could beat Pacquiao and Pacquiao benefitted from the hard fights Morales had been in ,also he did not beat Marquez either time from what i saw

Pacquiao, also put on weight to help the size difference, he was to small vs Morales the first time.

But still, thats an excuse - Pacquiao beat Morales 2 times out of 3 and he wasn't 43 years old. Pacquiao wasn't even at his best when he fought Morales, he was a sloppy agressive hard punching feather weight. Pacquiao's Prime is right now.

Hopkins technically beat Calzaghe and he was 43, and you think he hadn't been in any wars? shows how little you know.

[RightHandLead]

does Pacquiao beat Morales twice before his wars with MAB ? no way Morales looked done in the 3rd Barrera fight

Jones maybe but Joe beats Toney and Hopkins prime for prime

Joe wouldn't have last 12 with either man.

[Super welsh Joe]

Pacquiao, also put on weight to help the size difference, he was to small vs Morales the first time.

But still, thats an excuse - Pacquiao beat Morales 2 times out of 3 and he wasn't 43 years old. Pacquiao wasn't even at his best when he fought Morales, he was a sloppy agressive hard punching feather weight. Pacquiao's Prime is right now.

Hopkins technically beat Calzaghe and he was 43, and you think he hadn't been in any wars? shows how little you know.

make a poll and see how many people agree with you ,does Pacquiao beat Morales twice pre Barrera ?

[IMDAZED]

does Pacquiao beat Morales twice before his wars with MAB ? no way Morales looked done in the 3rd Barrera fight

Jones maybe but Joe beats Toney and Hopkins prime for prime

Youre so ****ing delusional.

[them_apples]

make a poll and see how many people agree with you ,does Pacquiao beat Morales twice pre Barrera ?

a Prime Pacquiao now beats a Prime Morales, Pre Barrera.

Pacquiao's best wins so far came when he was just a young blood.

[Super welsh Joe]

RightHandLead

Joe wouldn't have last 12 with either man.

you are obviously just a hater im not interested in what u have to say ,Joe has never been stopped