these Mexican fans are making me laugh

[Alibata]

I don't think you're noticing the difference.

Morales quit at the tail end of his career. Vazquez couldn't breathe.

Miguel quit in the prime and biggest fight of his career.



and you're not too bright if you think Morales in the 3rd Pac fight was in his prime. He was already past his prime when he beat Pacquiao the first time.

I don't think you understand.... It don't matter for whatever reason you quit as long as you quit... Quitting isn't an gene that pops up at a certain age. Marquez fought againts Pac not being able to breathe... He had the heart and will to handle it while Vasquez did not. Morales showed heart all his career, but we have never seen him beat down like he was it the 3rd fight... He quit cuz he couldn't handle the beat down.. .Corrales got up everytime mayweather put him down in a fight that seemed futile for him... Quitting is quitting... there are no excuses... If Cotto quit it was cuz he couldn't handle the situation of Margarito that night... Just like Vasquez did not have the tolerance of Marquez, Morales like Cotto couldn't handle something he's never experienced. They all quit.. Quitting isn't related to past prime, it is related to what the **** situation they were in that moment that made them do it... You could beat down a 90 year old corrales in the back yard and that dude would still be getting up to try to kick your ass.. You get the drift.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Good post.

For all who say Cotto 'quit' usually when a fighter takes a knee, they're buying themselves some time to recover when they're being overwhelmed. It doesn't necessarily mean that they want to quit.

question.
If he didn't quit, why did he back all the way up into the corner before taking a knee?

answer
there was nowhere else to run.

He took to voluntary knees. Whether it was to buy time or not, he simply knew he was overwhelmed and gave up. Look at his body language, he wasn't even dis*****g his corner throwing in the towel. Just like Cintron, he was looking for an out, meaning he quit.

[Vasyl’s dad]

I don't think you understand.... It don't matter for whatever reason you quit as long as you quit... Quitting isn't an gene that pops up at a certain age. Marquez fought againts Pac not being able to breathe... He had the heart and will to handle it while Vasquez did not. Morales showed heart all his career, but we have never seen him beat down like he was it the 3rd fight... He quit cuz he couldn't handle the beat down.. .Corrales got up everytime mayweather put him down in a fight that seemed futile for him... Quitting is quitting... there are no excuses... If Cotto quit it was cuz he couldn't handle the situation of Margarito that night... Just like Vasquez did not have the tolerance of Marquez, Morales like Cotto couldn't handle something he's never experienced. They all quit.. Quitting isn't related to past prime, it is related to what the **** situation you are in that made you do it...

You're seriously a moron if you think Vazquez quit the first time because he couldn't handle Marquez. The kids nose was busted to ****, even though he put Marquez down in the third and was coming on strong by pretty much everyone who saw that particular fight. Its obvious you didn't. Had you seen it, you would have seen Izzys face swelling up by the second during his interview. Granted he quit, but its not because of the reasons you're saying.

On to Morales. Pacquiao wasn't something that Morales hadn't ever experienced, Erik already beat him and got KOd by him. At the last stage of Morales career he just felt it wasn't necessary to risk further injury. Granted he quit, but its not because of the reasons you're saying.

The only thing you're right about is that quitting has nothing to do with being past prime as all circumstances are different.

The difference in quitting between said fighters is that Morales never once quit in the prime of his career and Israel simply couldn't breathe through his nose.

Miguel quit in the prime of his career during the biggest fight of his career.

Thats the stunner.

[Alibata]

You're seriously a moron if you think Vazquez quit the first time because he couldn't handle Marquez. The kids nose was busted to ****, even though he put Marquez down in the third and was coming on strong by pretty much everyone who saw that particular fight. Its obvious you didn't. Had you seen it, you would have seen Izzys face swelling up by the second during his interview. Granted he quit, but its not because of the reasons you're saying.

On to Morales. Pacquiao wasn't something that Morales hadn't ever experienced, Erik already beat him and got KOd by him. At the last stage of Morales career he just felt it wasn't necessary to risk further injury. Granted he quit, but its not because of the reasons you're saying.

The only thing you're right about is that quitting has nothing to do with being past prime as all circumstances are different.

The difference in quitting between said fighters is that Morales never once quit in the prime of his career and Israel simply couldn't breathe through his nose.

Miguel quit in the prime of his career during the biggest fight of his career.

Thats the stunner.

You still don't get it... You could fight a 90 year old corrales and kd him a million times and he wouldn't quit... So what the hell does past prime have to do with courage and heart.... Answer??

Juan Manuel Marquez had a busted up nose in the first Pacquiao fight in the first round with his nose spewing worse than vasquez...Dude had heart and refused to accept defeat... Obviously Marquez has a higher tolerance and bigger will and heart.. He could be 50 and he wouldn't shake his head like morales. Thats why I like him the most out of Barrera and Morales.

[Vasyl’s dad]

You still don't get it... You could fight a 90 year old corrales and kd him a million times and he wouldn't quit... So what the hell does past prime have to do with courage and heart.... Answer??

Juan Manuel Marquez had a busted up nose in the first Pacquiao fight in the first round with his nose spewing worse than vasquez...Dude had heart and refused to accept defeat... Obviously Marquez has a higher tolerance and bigger will and heart.. He could be 50 and he wouldn't shake his head like morales. Thats why I like him the most out of Barrera and Morales.

Obviously you don't get it.

Theres no use trying to teach a ******.

They just don't get it.

[FilipinoFlash]

You still don't get it... You could fight a 90 year old corrales and kd him a million times and he wouldn't quit... So what the hell does past prime have to do with courage and heart.... Answer??

Juan Manuel Marquez had a busted up nose in the first Pacquiao fight in the first round with his nose spewing worse than vasquez...Dude had heart and refused to accept defeat... Obviously Marquez has a higher tolerance and bigger will and heart.. He could be 50 and he wouldn't shake his head like morales. Thats why I like him the most out of Barrera and Morales.

how the **** do you know that?

[ElGranLuchador]

alibata
yes vazquez did quit on his stool
but u cant doubt his heart and will, if uve seen the last round of marquez vs vazquez 3 u would see it would take a superhuman ammount of heart to gather strenght out of nowhere and give a hell of a last round

[Sonic Flood]

You're seriously a moron if you think Vazquez quit the first time because he couldn't handle Marquez. The kids nose was busted to ****, even though he put Marquez down in the third and was coming on strong by pretty much everyone who saw that particular fight. Its obvious you didn't. Had you seen it, you would have seen Izzys face swelling up by the second during his interview. Granted he quit, but its not because of the reasons you're saying.

On to Morales. Pacquiao wasn't something that Morales hadn't ever experienced, Erik already beat him and got KOd by him. At the last stage of Morales career he just felt it wasn't necessary to risk further injury. Granted he quit, but its not because of the reasons you're saying.

The only thing you're right about is that quitting has nothing to do with being past prime as all circumstances are different.

The difference in quitting between said fighters is that Morales never once quit in the prime of his career and Israel simply couldn't breathe through his nose.

Miguel quit in the prime of his career during the biggest fight of his career.

Thats the stunner.

I think same thing goes to Pac.. In the first Morales fight, Pac's face was messy due to the headbutt and he couldn't see a damn thing.. His gloves were the Winning Gloves instead of using Cleto Reyes.. If Excuse is Excuse Morales never beat convincingly Pac.. A past his prime Campbell beat Juan Diaz and Margarito got his ass beaten by Williams...

You forgot that Cotto's nose is also broken and was breathing thorugh his mouth.. Stop riding the the Mexican's **** and be more open minded you idiot.

[Vasyl’s dad]

how the **** do you know that?

Hes a ******, they know everything.

[Alibata]

Obviously you don't get it.

Theres no use trying to teach a ******.

They just don't get it.

Yeah im talking about what constitutes quitting and your too busy defending Mexicans as to why they quit like warriors as oppose to Cotto who quit like a *****. Yeah I get it.