Can Joan guzman beat Paquiao?

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  • miron_lang
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    #61
    Originally posted by Black Jesus
    i think its roger mayweather i cant remember, either way, floyd sr and roger both excel when their fighters are prepared to do what their told in the fashion they tell them. Thanks for the compliment. Honestly, i dont see this fight happening anytime soon, this is a nightmare matchup for pacman, even though alot of you experts swear pacman will pick him apart, this guy moves, every person pac has knocked out was standing there to be hit. This guy is faster than marquez with superior defense and handspeed, hes not going to just be standing there waiting to get hit. This is the one fight for pacman that i really dont see him winning, everyone else, from campbell to casamayor to juan diaz, those are all winnable.
    yeah i ve heard that a thousand times.. your ultimate basis is Sotto and Barrios right?

    I know you're going to say all that so thats why ive asked to reserve your pts for me. its very easy to say all this and that without anything at stake. Here at least we have e pts

    im not even sure if you value your pts but ALL your pts if this gets made?


    * im positive its sr.

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    • El Jesus
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      #62
      Originally posted by miron_lang
      yeah i ve heard that a thousand times.. your ultimate basis is Sotto and Barrios right?

      I know you're going to say all that so thats why ive asked to reserve your pts for me. its very easy to say all this and that without anything at stake. Here at least we have e pts

      im not even sure if you value your pts but ALL your pts if this gets made?


      * im positive its sr.

      Sure, points mean next to nothing to me.

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      • da_beast
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        #63
        i honesty dont think Guzman would last six rounds with manny, he is a slapper with good defensive abilities, manny is a huge hitter and is just as fast as guzman,

        Manny has also been tested at lightweight Guzman has not and we dont know how he would react to moving up another weight,

        No KO's in six years, that aint too good.

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          #64
          Originally posted by da_beast
          i honesty dont think Guzman would last six rounds with manny, he is a slapper with good defensive abilities, manny is a huge hitter and is just as fast as guzman,

          Manny has also been tested at lightweight Guzman has not and we dont know how he would react to moving up another weight,

          No KO's in six years, that aint too good.
          The way to beat Pacquiao is to outbox him, not try to outslug him. So how many KO's Guzman has had recently is irrelevant.

          Second, who tested Pac at lightweight? Was the Marquez fight there?

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            #65
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            The way to beat Pacquiao is to outbox him, not try to outslug him. So how many KO's Guzman has had recently is irrelevant.

            Second, who tested Pac at lightweight? Was the Marquez fight there?
            no but the David Diaz fight was. You are also making it sound as though you have this idea that manny cant box and he is just a slugger. There is no way Guzman could box for twelve rounds with manny and not get hit, Manny can box as well, he also has freddy Roach in his corner who has turned him into a much better fighter, especially defensively,

            Many can box and that coupled with his power puts Guzman in a whole world of trouble

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              #66
              Originally posted by da_beast
              no but the David Diaz fight was. You are also making it sound as though you have this idea that manny cant box and he is just a slugger. There is no way Guzman could box for twelve rounds with manny and not get hit, Manny can box as well, he also has freddy Roach in his corner who has turned him into a much better fighter, especially defensively,

              Many can box and that coupled with his power puts Guzman in a whole world of trouble
              PS. Who has actualy beaten Manny by out boxing him? No one

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                #67
                Originally posted by da_beast
                no but the David Diaz fight was. You are also making it sound as though you have this idea that manny cant box and he is just a slugger. There is no way Guzman could box for twelve rounds with manny and not get hit, Manny can box as well, he also has freddy Roach in his corner who has turned him into a much better fighter, especially defensively,

                Many can box and that coupled with his power puts Guzman in a whole world of trouble
                David Diaz wasn't a test, he wasn't even a good sparring partner.

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                • 2quick2slick
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                  #68
                  NO. Joan Guzman CANNOT beat Manny Pacquiao.

                  Guzman can match Pac's speed, but not Pac's power.

                  Guzman wouldn't dare trading punches with Pac like he did with Soto.

                  Soto is slow, and he doesn't have the 2-time coach of the year (Freddie Roach) training him.

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                  • GTL
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by miron_lang
                    manny_p ???

                    me?


                    no no no no no no


                    If manny_p is Rid**** Bowe I am Joe Louis


                    Joke

                    Benjamin is MIA.
                    Ohh.
                    I thought you were back lol..

                    I was gunna say, damn man.. the ****riding stopped for a while..

                    Anyway, Hit me up when the fight happens.. Guzman will win thats for sure man..

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                    • da_beast
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by 2quick2slick
                      NO. Joan Guzman CANNOT beat Manny Pacquiao.

                      Guzman can match Pac's speed, but not Pac's power.

                      Guzman wouldn't dare trading punches with Pac like he did with Soto.

                      Soto is slow, and he doesn't have the 2-time coach of the year (Freddie Roach) training him.
                      agreed, i think the only thing Guzman could hope for is a lucky KO punch and he does not have the power for that to happen,

                      He can match his speed but i doubt he can better it and after the last two fights manny has shown he is a great counter puncher.

                      Here are the scenario's

                      Guzman tries to box him: Lasts six rounds then gets KO'd and realises that manny can also box with the best of them.

                      Guzman goes toe to toe with him: Goes down in the second after feeling power the likes he has never felt before.

                      I give him a 3% chance.

                      People are saying he will be too busy for manny and force him onto the back foot,

                      I say Manny will walk straight through his punches cause they are more like slaps tbh.

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