is calzage an all time great if he beats rjj and retires undefeated???

**DanielTurcotte3** · 07-08-2008, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!

i think his resume is more of a joke than mayweather but he has accomplished some impressive things.

He damn sure won't soooo No....he's a fraud and after Roy ****s him up we can finally say that Calzaghe has been EXPOSED!!!!

**Addition** · 07-08-2008, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!

i think his resume is more of a joke than mayweather but he has accomplished some impressive things.

Like what?

And no he isn't an all time great.

**VIVA MEXICO!!** · 07-08-2008, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by Addition

Like what?

And no he isn't an all time great.

he had 21 straight defenses but mostly against guys i never heard of. he also had the lineal title in 2 divisions.

**JAB5239** · 07-08-2008, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!

i think his resume is more of a joke than mayweather but he has accomplished some impressive things.

depends on what you mean by all time great. He's probably 1st or 2nd at 168. But Im not sure he makes the top 50 greatest fighters ever. Thats no insult, there have been hundreds of great, great fighters over the years.

**DanielTurcotte3** · 07-08-2008, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by Addition

Like what?

And no he isn't an all time great.

And you forgot to mention that he's not even as the same breath of air as FMJ......viva.....somethin wrong with you for even mentioned Flloyd in the same sentence as Joe dutchie!

**Easy-E** · 07-08-2008, 06:57 PM

Im not really sure, regardless of his record I still feel as though he would get worked by the majority of the great past supermiddleweights.

**RichCCFC** · 07-08-2008, 06:57 PM

Obviously...

**DiegoFuego** · 07-08-2008, 06:57 PM

He hasn't done **** aside from beating being around a long time, but a lot of guys could do that if they only fought 1 or 2 good fighters their entire career. He would have been better off NOT fighting Hopkins than looking as pathetic as he did against him. His only good win is Kessler.

**ИATAS** · 07-08-2008, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by VIVA MEXICO!!

he had 21 straight defenses but mostly against guys i never heard of. he also had the lineal title in 2 divisions.

yeah but he got one of those titles against bhop who was 43. he basically had one belt for 10 years or so before making any risks, lacy, kessler and bhop. Jones doesn't really do anything for his legacy, imo, since he's past his prime and 40 years old.

I would say yes if he takes on someone like Pavlik then maybe chad dawson or someone like that, as of now though I gotta vote No.

is calzage an all time great if he beats rjj and retires undefeated???