Is Joe Calzaghe the best fighter Roy Jones will have fought?

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  • Dynamite Kid
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    #41
    Hopkins that fought Tito would of beaten Calz with ease he would have crusied past Joe if he could of sustain his activity, Joe is all about Workrate when he comes foward and he has never faced a defensively sound fighter like Hopkins in his life and when he did he was getting showed how good he actually is and Toney makes him look worse

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      #42
      Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
      Hopkins took bigger risks and fought the better opponents, Calzaghe beat the better fighters that were his size. I think thats pretty fair.
      Exactly so dont try and compare records because Kessler was a harder fight than anyone Hopkins beat.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Terrible...
        Hopkins that fought Tito would of beaten Calz with ease he would have crusied past Joe if he could of sustain his activity, Joe is all about Workrate when he comes foward and he has never faced a defensively sound fighter like Hopkins in his life and when he did he was getting showed how good he actually is and Toney makes him look worse
        Thats why he ducked a 3m offer to face Joe. LOL!

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          #44
          Originally posted by TommyGunn.
          Bull****, Tarver will make the HOF but he wont be considered first Ballet.Guys like Eubank and Benn were not even considered for that and quite frankly Tarver could not walk a mile in those guys shoes.

          He is nowhere near Calzaghe level either.
          That is just a ridiculous statement to make Tarver is easy on the level of Eubank and Benn if not better ,Tarver has beaten an Elite fighter which Elite fighter has Eubank beat Henry Wharton ,Dan Sherry ,Gary Stretch lol

          Tarver just aint popular cause he beat Roy Jones but there is no doubting the guys ability

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            #45
            Originally posted by TommyGunn.
            Exactly so dont try and compare records because Kessler was a harder fight than anyone Hopkins beat.
            Thats not true at all. I could have made a case for Hopkins beating the better fighters, but refuesed to do becuase i am very unbiased and don't want to blow things out of poportion. Pound for pound, you could make a strong case for Bernard Hopkins beating the better fighters and more ACCOMPLISHED champions. Trinidad, Tarver, Wright, De La Hoya, Joppy ectera. All are more accomplished fighter than both Lacy and Kessler.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Terrible...
              That is just a ridiculous statement to make Tarver is easy on the level of Eubank and Benn if not better ,Tarver has beaten an Elite fighter which Elite fighter has Eubank beat Henry Wharton ,Dan Sherry ,Gary Stretch lol

              Tarver just aint popular cause he beat Roy Jones but there is no doubting the guys ability
              Benn was an elite fighter, Eubank beat him. And dont say Benn was not elite because he beat G-man who had beat guys like Jackson who had beat guys like Terry Norris and Thomas Tate.

              Both were elite.

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                #47
                Originally posted by TommyGunn.
                Thats why he ducked a 3m offer to face Joe. LOL!
                Well what sounds more contradictory the fact that u think he is a better fighter when Hopkins arguably beat him and was 43 years old and on that evidence u think it is sufficient to suggest he would beat a prime Hopkins or he was a better fighter than Hopkins overall

                how cares if he turned a fight down with Joe or not if dont mean Calz would of beat him does it

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
                  Thats not true at all. I could have made a case for Hopkins beating the better fighters, but refuesed to do becuase i am very unbiased and don't want to blow things out of poportion. Pound for pound, you could make a strong case for Bernard Hopkins beating the better fighters and more ACCOMPLISHED champions. Trinidad, Tarver, Wright, De La Hoya, Joppy ectera. All are more accomplished fighter than both Lacy and Kessler.
                  Winky, Oscar and Tito were all naturaly smaller than Hopkins. A LOT smaller!

                  Tarver just wasn't that good, he had a shot Roy Jones. Guys like Harding and Glen were never A-level fighters. They were solid B. Virgil Hill was always a B-level fighter (you mensioned him earlier in the debate with Roy) and Ruiz is a ****in C-level HW. He is garbage.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by TommyGunn.
                    Benn was an elite fighter, Eubank beat him. And dont say Benn was not elite because he beat G-man who had beat guys like Jackson who had beat guys like Terry Norris and Thomas Tate.

                    Both were elite.

                    no both were not Elite at all McClellan was suffering from Brain Injury unless no one had told u and he was still infront in that fight Benn would not have won if not for Injury so again u are talking complete bull

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Terrible...
                      Well what sounds more contradictory the fact that u think he is a better fighter when Hopkins arguably beat him and was 43 years old and on that evidence u think it is sufficient to suggest he would beat a prime Hopkins or he was a better fighter than Hopkins overall

                      how cares if he turned a fight down with Joe or not if dont mean Calz would of beat him does it
                      Fact is Hopkins has turned into an anti-fighter the past few years and done all he could to spoil the fight. Nard was never like that back in the day he was much more open. Fighting Calzaghe in an open fight would not have been good for Hopkins and it WOULD have been much more open 7 years ago.

                      Calzaghe UD.

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