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  • IMDAZED
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    #31
    Originally posted by pbftxrs316
    you see, 1st of all you dumb ****, i didn't brush aside resume, and don't assume anything about me until i postion myself for you to do such that, which i have not done, with teh exception of me claiming that floyd would defeat whitaker, and i base this off of overall skillset ****boy, more than resume. next time, read my post correctly before responding to it, or just stay out of my conversation.
    I didn't know it was your conversation - it's a thread. Just because you've made it an ode to your favorite fighter doesn't make it yours.

    I love Floyd as much as the next man but in BOXING, we don't JUST measure by skill. We compare resume because they go hand in hand. And since you're the dumb **** who said this:
    you have to look at their performances more than their resume to really compare them, which is why i look at their overall skill level and floyd was a better skilled fighter overall, period.
    ...I'm gonna respond.

    Let your love letters commence.

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    • Miburo
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      #32
      Two completely different styles of defense. Whitaker had perhaps the best upper-body punch-slipping ability ever, but it's hard to claim one as superior to the other. I would say Mayweather's gives an offensive edge in countering.

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        #33
        Originally posted by pbftxrs316
        you see, and this is why i try to avoid posters of your caliuber, seeing how you just like many other irrational posters on here always find time to try and **** on floyd without looking at anything reasonable and objective. stop acting childish and claiming recycled bull**** known only as floyd bashing and argue with me like a ****ing boxing fan, not critic. whitaker fought a lot of great fighters and so did floyd, they both fought champions okay? floyd and sweet pea are both great because of how dedicated they were to their craft and how amazing they performed in thei ring no matter who they fought. we're comparing skill level, not level of competiton because when you put these 2 in th ering against one another, you won't look at who they fought more than how skillful they are, and i'm not saying that you don't have to look at how floyd fought southpaws and pernell fought right hand fighters, but all i'm claiming is that skillwise, you'd have to look at how they performed more than who they performed on, and imo, floyd mayweather is the better skilled fighter and would beat pernell whitaker, that's all.
        Pernell performed at a world class level in every fight in his prime, against better competition than Mayweather faced.

        I'd drop that argument if I were you.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Pelon Psyclone
          Pernell performed at a world class level in every fight in his prime, against better competition than Mayweather faced.

          I'd drop that argument if I were you.

          Yeah, I mean...how dumb is that?

          How can you say you have to look at the way they performed, not who they performed against?

          That goes against everything boxing is about!

          "Man, did you see the way Kermit Cintron KO'ed that bum?"

          "Yeah, but he ain't got **** on Margarito."

          "Man, you buggin'. Cintron KO'ed Glass Joe in one round while Margarito went 12 with Clottey. It's obvious who's better!"

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          • pbftxrs316
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            #35
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            No, no, no...you can't really judge a fighter's TRUE skill level until you measure him against fellow greats. How can you say Floyd had greater skill when he never fought anyone of Azumah's level to TEST that skill? Come on, Floyd was struggling with Jose Louis Castillo (nowhere NEAR Nelson's level), when Nelson was soundly outboxing Nelson.

            Dude...you aren't a boxing fan, you're a Floyd fan. You better hope he comes back or you aren't gonna have much to talk about.
            there you go again. you know what, just stop responding to me. you obviously read my posts wrong and interpret them even worst. is floyd vs pernell not a fight between two greats? hello, ****head, wakeup. and who are you to say that castillo wasn't greater than nelson?(nelson outboxing himself? what the **** is that ****). this is what i'm talking about. too many times, people base a fighter's performance off of who they beat, so they automatically assume that, that fighter will lose to the next oppnent because of how he performed against the last one. and comparing nelson ot castillo, claiming that floyd struggled against castillo when floyd has a shoulder injury and cracked ribs, an dwhitaker fought nelson healthy, and floyd defeated castillo soundly in their next fight, only enhaces my argument of not basing assumptions off of previous fights, especially seeing how great floyd is at adjusting to different styles jackass. floyd has really never fought the same fight in his fights, especially at the lower weightclass, and i mean, he did different things with each of his opponents. he didn't fight genaro hernandez the same way he fought corrales. he didn't fight manfredy the same way he fought tony pep, yet still dominated all of those fights, pay attention,.

            and saying i'm not a boxing fan, i'm just a floyd fan really befuttals me, when i grew up on boxing, fought myself, study fighters and fights as if i'm about to fight them, meaing i watch fights in slow motion many times, i watch
            fighters and how they move to certain punches thrown at them, how they throw combos and the timing at which they throw their punches at, how they fight off of the ropes, how sharp their punches look, how their feet move, whether fast or slow, how they roll punches thrown at them, how good they feint and thrown punches from feints, how good they take a punch, if they close their eyes when they punch, how good they jab, thorw counterpunches off of the ropes and in the middle of the ring, how hard they hit, how fast they hit, i watch all of these things and more over and over and over again to really study their styles and this is how i can argue the way i do. **** son, i watch their stances and how they breath. i mean, this may be a little much to some people, but if you ever really read my previous posts and threads, you would know that i do know boxing you little *****, and i am not just a mayweather fan. so just because i pick him to beat pernell which i always have, just because i say he's overall more skilled. doesn't mean i'm not a fan of boxing. i don't even know why i took time out to post this to you, your mind is made up and your opinion means jack**** when you post such things like, "you're no fan of boxing if you like floyd mayweather, or mayweather is a *****, mayweather sucks, mayweather cherrypicked his opponents, mayweather ducks such and such,". that right there is person who isn't a fan of boxing.

            explain this one to me, with all of the people on here who bash floyd constantly with his every ****ing move, and don't post about anything else, do you go in there and tell them they aren't fans of boxing? i highly doubt it, and i have read your posts before, you're another hater, that's all, but it don't mean ****. remember this, because i will not posts anything else towards on this thread. i do a lot of rewinding when i watch fights, how about you? i have watched one fight for hours just to study how a fighter fights, from their eye movment to how they train in th e****ing gym. i know boxing more than you'll ever know punk, trust me.

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              #36
              Originally posted by pbftxrs316
              there you go again. you know what, just stop responding to me. you obviously read my posts wrong and interpret them even worst. is floyd vs pernell not a fight between two greats? hello, ****head, wakeup. and who are you to say that castillo wasn't greater than nelson?(nelson outboxing himself? what the **** is that ****). this is what i'm talking about. too many times, people base a fighter's performance off of who they beat, so they automatically assume that, that fighter will lose to the next oppnent because of how he performed against the last one. and comparing nelson ot castillo, claiming that floyd struggled against castillo when floyd has a shoulder injury and cracked ribs, an dwhitaker fought nelson healthy, and floyd defeated castillo soundly in their next fight, only enhaces my argument of not basing assumptions off of previous fights, especially seeing how great floyd is at adjusting to different styles jackass. floyd has really never fought the same fight in his fights, especially at the lower weightclass, and i mean, he did different things with each of his opponents. he didn't fight genaro hernandez the same way he fought corrales. he didn't fight manfredy the same way he fought tony pep, yet still dominated all of those fights, pay attention,.

              and saying i'm not a boxing fan, i'm just a floyd fan really befuttals me, when i grew up on boxing, fought myself, study fighters and fights as if i'm about to fight them, meaing i watch fights in slow motion many times, i watch
              fighters and how they move to certain punches thrown at them, how they throw combos and the timing at which they throw their punches at, how they fight off of the ropes, how sharp their punches look, how their feet move, whether fast or slow, how they roll punches thrown at them, how good they feint and thrown punches from feints, how good they take a punch, if they close their eyes when they punch, how good they jab, thorw counterpunches off of the ropes and in the middle of the ring, how hard they hit, how fast they hit, i watch all of these things and more over and over and over again to really study their styles and this is how i can argue the way i do. **** son, i watch their stances and how they breath. i mean, this may be a little much to some people, but if you ever really read my previous posts and threads, you would know that i do know boxing you little *****, and i am not just a mayweather fan. so just because i pick him to beat pernell which i always have, just because i say he's overall more skilled. doesn't mean i'm not a fan of boxing. i don't even know why i took time out to post this to you, your mind is made up and your opinion means jack**** when you post such things like, "you're no fan of boxing if you like floyd mayweather, or mayweather is a *****, mayweather sucks, mayweather cherrypicked his opponents, mayweather ducks such and such,". that right there is person who isn't a fan of boxing.

              explain this one to me, with all of the people on here who bash floyd constantly with his every ****ing move, and don't post about anything else, do you go in there and tell them they aren't fans of boxing? i highly doubt it, and i have read your posts before, you're another hater, that's all, but it don't mean ****. remember this, because i will not posts anything else towards on this thread. i do a lot of rewinding when i watch fights, how about you? i have watched one fight for hours just to study how a fighter fights, from their eye movment to how they train in th e****ing gym. i know boxing more than you'll ever know punk, trust me.
              Those lines I bolded are the funniest I've heard in a while.

              Ok, I'll stop responding to you MISTER PBF

              Saved me the trouble of reading the WHOLE love letter - can't tell if its to me or Floyd...

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              • pbftxrs316
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                #37
                Originally posted by Pelon Psyclone
                Pernell performed at a world class level in every fight in his prime, against better competition than Mayweather faced.

                I'd drop that argument if I were you.
                too bad you're not me huh? and floyd also performed at world class level and fought champions in every division he fought in, so what are you saying really? nothing, maybe you stay out of the argument shouldn't you?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by pbftxrs316
                  too bad you're not me huh? and floyd also performed at world class level and fought champions in every division he fought in, so what are you saying really? nothing, maybe you stay out of the argument shouldn't you?
                  He's saying that just because Floyd fought a "champion" doesn't make them Azumah Nelson. Or Julio Cesar Chavez, ok? And no one one Floyd fought comes close - not even De La Hoya, who hadn't had a big win in six years.

                  Maybe if you removed your head out of PBF's ass, you'd noticed that. At least change your handle - someone might take you seriously.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    Those lines I bolded are the funniest I've heard in a while.

                    Ok, I'll stop responding to you MISTER PBF

                    Saved me the trouble of reading the WHOLE love letter - can't tell if its to me or Floyd...
                    uh oh. i guess i lied, i will respond to this one. the bolded lines you brought up must have been the only ines you read, but's that's even better, because that goes to show you how people who can't really argue anything of significance when faced with logic responds, they resort to sarcasm. you, are just another example of such. but, thank you for your response, it was a perfect setup for me to end this with. and your little groupie who told me to end the argument, just adds the cheery to the ice cream, thank you too homeboy. now, for those who want to argue respectively, bring it.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by pbftxrs316
                      too bad you're not me huh? and floyd also performed at world class level and fought champions in every division he fought in, so what are you saying really? nothing, maybe you stay out of the argument shouldn't you?
                      I've already said it, but you're too ****** to realize it.


                      I'll say it again though, just for kicks. Whitaker fought champions in every division as well, performed better, against better competition.

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