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  • Left Hook Tua
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    #61
    Originally posted by DiegoFuego
    Ike clearly won the first four rounds. If you gave Tua any of them, then I really don't care to see your card because they were clearly for Ike. You don't just give Tua a round because he did better, you are supposed to be consistent. Once you give Ike the first four (I know Harold didn't because he doesn't like a guy to get too far ahead), are you really going to tell me you only gave Ike one more round? It's fine if you did, but I need to know.

    Believe me, I am totally NOT one of those guys that awards volume of punches thrown over quality of punches landed. (This didn't happen but if) Ike lands 10 punches with no effect and Tua lands a left hook that knocks Ike back, then Tua is ahead. That just wasn't the case though. It was a good, hotly contested fight, but Tua was not winning rounds. He had a good chance in the 11th to win it but couldn't get the job done.
    i think i gave ike 3 of the first 4 , 1 of the mid-late rounds and the last round to ike. but i'm just going off of memory so i'm not sure. i haven't judge the fight with a pen in a long time.

    ike threw and landed a lot but remember tua threw almost 800 punches as well. i don't remember the connect percentages but tua usually has a high percentage because he fights close range. tua also doesn't throw jabs so you know a lot of those were power punches and while both guys have great beards , tua throws a lot harder and 'causes more damage. i seriously don't know how ike didn't go down......

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    • eazy_mas
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      #62
      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
      i know it's a business for boxers and they have to do what's in their best interest.

      i mainly blame all the orgs. all of these could be solved by having only one governing body but it's not gonna happen.
      The problem with that is that then a fighter has only one ogr love or hate it. If they put an anger against you then you are done and you may not have a title fight in years to come.

      I think it is the best if they do it the same way as F1, many organization in on body.

      boxing should get more sponosers if they want to be more popular even though it not the best idea for any sport.

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        #63
        Originally posted by eazy_mas
        The problem with that is that then a fighter has only one ogr love or hate it. If they put an anger against you then you are done and you may not have a title fight in years to come.

        I think it is the best if they do it the same way as F1, many organization in on body.

        boxing should get more sponosers if they want to be more popular even though it not the best idea for any sport.
        well we can't have it both ways.

        one org and we'll probably get what we want but you're right and they might take advantage of the boxers.

        we can keep it the way it is and it's to the boxer's advantage but we might not get the fights we want at the time we want it.

        boxing is so tough to fix......

        it would be so nice if it was organized like the world cup or something......

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          #64
          Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
          well we can't have it both ways.

          one org and we'll probably get what we want but you're right and they might take advantage of the boxers.

          we can keep it the way it is and it's to the boxer's advantage but we might not get the fights we want at the time we want it.

          boxing is so tough to fix......

          it would be so nice if it was organized like the world cup or something......
          that would be intersting to get a title shot.

          you think if boxing changed it style of fight would it be better?

          example if every year you fight 7 fight til the final and then you get a title of 2008 instead of having it eliminator and title defense?

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            #65
            Originally posted by eazy_mas
            that would be intersting to get a title shot.

            you think if boxing changed it style of fight would it be better?

            example if every year you fight 7 fight til the final and then you get a title of 2008 instead of having it eliminator and title defense?
            some type of organization would be nice. better than promoters having all the say.

            my dream , though it'll never happen , is to have the wbc , ibf , wbo and wba all combine into 1 world organization and a few regional organizations.

            there will only be 1 world champion and a north american , asian , european and south american champion.

            the world champion is required to fight at least once a year against the winner of the playoffs of the regional champions. they can fight as many fights after that as long as it's either a top 10 in the world in their division or top 10 in another weight class.

            the regional champions will be decided by a eliminator of each champion of that weight class in their country. for instance the asian champion will be the winner of the playoff of the filipino , japanese , thai , korean , etc. champion. the rules applied to the regional champion apply to the world champion. they can only fight someone top 10 in their region.

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            • Xyei
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              #66
              I agree with a lot of what you said there. Only a couple little details that I don't agree with.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                some type of organization would be nice. better than promoters having all the say.

                my dream , though it'll never happen , is to have the wbc , ibf , wbo and wba all combine into 1 world organization and a few regional organizations.

                there will only be 1 world champion and a north american , asian , european and south american champion.

                the world champion is required to fight at least once a year against the winner of the playoffs of the regional champions. they can fight as many fights after that as long as it's either a top 10 in the world in their division or top 10 in another weight class.

                the regional champions will be decided by a eliminator of each champion of that weight class in their country. for instance the asian champion will be the winner of the playoff of the filipino , japanese , thai , korean , etc. champion. the rules applied to the regional champion apply to the world champion. they can only fight someone top 10 in their region.
                similar to football.

                but there should have like so much sponors for this event because when reacting the playoff they need alot of money to promote and give out for fighters.

                could you imagine gatoride or pepsi sponosering some of the boxer right now?

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by abosworth
                  I agree with a lot of what you said there. Only a couple little details that I don't agree with.
                  which ones , abosworth?

                  you know my little biases and certain personal preferences apply on my opinions.

                  we can all try to be as unbiased as we want but it's human nature.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by eazy_mas
                    similar to football.

                    but there should have like so much sponors for this event because when reacting the playoff they need alot of money to promote and give out for fighters.

                    could you imagine gatoride or pepsi sponosering some of the boxer right now?
                    they'll sponsor it. the reason they don't sponsor boxing too much is because most fights are on pay cable or ppv so it doesn't have a large audience.

                    sponsoring and tv might be an issue for the u.s. but in other countries not so much.

                    think of it would skysports televise a fight between the british champions and french champions?

                    no interest in a card filled with german champions vs. russian champions in german tv?

                    or how about mexican tv? would they hesitate in televising a card of mexican champions versus puerto rican or cuban champions?

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                      which ones , abosworth?

                      you know my little biases and certain personal preferences apply on my opinions.

                      we can all try to be as unbiased as we want but it's human nature.
                      You know what, I guess the only thing I don't agree with is that Mayweather is afraid of Cotto. You said "probably" and I guess it could be a possibility but I don't see anything for him to be afraid of. As pissed off as I am at Floyd for retiring, I just don't think he is afraid of him. I really think he'll be back in a year or so to fight a huge fight, hopefully Cotto if he keeps winning.

                      Those are all pretty logical statements that you made and I guess I pretty much agree with all of it.

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