Paul Williams would beat Kelly Pavlik.

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  • abadger
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    #61
    Originally posted by Live Dog
    Last question....Do you think Willimas is a "real boxer"? I sure don't. He's always been known as a guy who simply outworks his opponent. In fact, Quintana showed that Paul could be easily outboxed with the right gameplan.
    As I have repeatedly stated in my posts, in order to beat Pavlik, Williams has to box in the way he did against Antonio Margarito, that is up on his toes, constantly circling and using his jab. If he tries to walk Pavlik down as he did against Quintana he will most likely lose.

    I don't believe Williams is a particularly powerful, accurate or technically correct puncher so he is not the best 'real boxer' I have ever seen, but he is capable of being fast and elusive when in with a known puncher. I believe that if he can do it the hard hitting, high workrate Margarito, then he can do it to the hard hitting, high workrate Pavlik, the only major variable is the strength of the punches coming back at him, if he can take them, then I believe he can win.

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    • Ray*
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      #62
      Paul williams fighting Pavlik isnt a risk at all, Most would pick against him anyway so i say go for it especially if he is tight at the weight(147).

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        #63
        Originally posted by BMWM3P
        Paul Williams is all hype, I wish this fight would get made so that Pavlik would knock his ass out.
        i agree he is as ordinary as they come IMO

        god knows why these Mofo keep bringing his name up like he is a top fighter

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          #64
          Originally posted by BMWM3P
          Paul Williams is all hype, I wish this fight would get made so that Pavlik would knock his ass out.
          I dont think his all hype, I think people are just freak out with the height thing. I havent even hear people talk about his Win over Margarito that much, Its like it never happens but am pretty sure if Cotto beat Margarito then we would never hear the end of how great Cotto is because of it.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Terrible...
            i agree he is as ordinary as they come IMO

            god knows why these Mofo keep bringing his name up like he is a top fighter

            Because this thread is about him wanting to fight pavlik.

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              #66
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                #67
                Originally posted by raycorey
                I dont think his all hype, I think people are just freak out with the height thing. I havent even hear people talk about his Win over Margarito that much, Its like it never happens but am pretty sure if Cotto beat Margarito then we would never hear the end of how great Cotto is because of it.
                What I think gets overlooked about Paul Williams is that he beat Margarito with a completely different style than he did against Quintana. Against Margarito he was dancing around the ring at exceptionally high speed making himself a very difficult prospect for the slow Margarito.

                Then, against Quintana he just walked him down and blasted him out with no great movement at all, he tried fighting him the same way first time out too. Obviously it didn't work for him that time, but he came back and beat him with the same style that had failed, so obviously whatever was wrong had been put right.

                He isn't perfect, thats for sure, as his defence isn't the best and I agree he isn't the best at switching it up on the fly in the ring, but I am not aware of very many boxers who are capable of boxing in two completely different ways, ways that have obviously been chosen as the best way to beat a particular opponent. I think it bodes well for his future.

                If I had a question mark against him it is whether he is good enough at either style to mix it with the very, very best, as that hasn't been answered yet, but I consider him to be one of the guys with the most potential in boxing.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by raycorey
                  Because this thread is about him wanting to fight pavlik.
                  wanting to fight Pavlik

                  no this thread is asking the question would Williams beat Pavlik

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                    #69
                    There is no way in hell williams beats pavlik, seriously if you ask me i think pavlik knocks him out in the 5th round. There is alot of hate on here for pavlik but i love him, and right now i dont think there is anybody good enough to beat him.

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                      #70
                      Willaims aint **** the reason people would give Cotto so much credit for beating Marg is because it is a bad match up for Cotto stylistically and if he was to overcome that it would mean he has even more diversity to adapt to an oponent that most believe has the style to beat him on top of that he would have got by another good WW

                      Williams beat Marg cause stylistically he had the advantage over Marg

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