Paul Williams would beat Kelly Pavlik.

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  • baya
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    #81
    Originally posted by Matt Marvelous
    Paul Williams is not like any Welterweight we've seen before. He could easily be fighting at 160 right now and dominating.

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    he's not dominating at 147, what makes you think he'll dominate there? williams gets the TREATMENT from the upper echelon of the middle division.

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    • Dynamite Kid
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      #82
      id give Joe Greene a better chance at beating Pavlik than Williams or Andre Ward for that matter

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      • abadger
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        #83
        Originally posted by Terrible...
        Pavlik is physically stronger and bigger than Williams he maybe a a natural 160but Pavlik is more like natural 175lbs fighter boiled down to 160

        they both have a high workrate both can be tagged easily enough but Pavlik is bigger stronger at that weight and Williams does not have any diversity in his game to negate Pavliks strength and size

        Williams is quicker yes but he leaves his chin hanging out a lot he did it against Marg and he did it against Quintana ,Pavlik would knock him out it dont matter how good your chin is if Pavlik hits him square on the chin he is gonna get KTFO ,Pavlik is not a home run hitter but if he hits u on the chin like how Quintana and Marg did he is gonna take u out
        Well, that is probably correct. I don't agree that Williams has no diversity since I have seen him box in two completely different ways depending on his opponent, but I'm not sure he can switch his game around at will.

        All my posts in this thread have been predicated on saying "if Williams can take Pavliks shots" and if he can't then he won't win. However, if he could I think he could outpoint Pavlik, because I think he has the style to do so. For me it all comes down to a question of Williams chin vs Pavliks power, like a lot of Pavlik fights.

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        • Ray*
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          #84
          Originally posted by Terrible...
          wanting to fight Pavlik

          no this thread is asking the question would Williams beat Pavlik

          And the only reason the question is been asked was because of the news that he offered Pavlik the fight.

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            #85
            Originally posted by abadger
            Well, that is probably correct. I don't agree that Williams has no diversity since I have seen him box in two completely different ways depending on his opponent, but I'm not sure he can switch his game around at will.

            All my posts in this thread have been predicated on saying "if Williams can take Pavliks shots" and if he can't then he won't win. However, if he could I think he could outpoint Pavlik, because I think he has the style to do so. For me it all comes down to a question of Williams chin vs Pavliks power, like a lot of Pavlik fights.
            which fights did Williams show diversity in ? he was getting Owned by Quintana 1st time and the 2nd time we did not get to see enough of the fight to judge

            Marg is 5ft 11 , Pavlik is 6 ft 2

            he was able to get off his combos against Marg and not get hit with counters but as u can see there is a huge disparity in height between Marg and Pavlik ,if Williams stayed on the outiside against Pavlik he would get found with the jab and right hands just like Jermain Taylor

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              #86
              Originally posted by Terrible...
              which fights did Williams show diversity in ? he was getting Owned by Quintana 1st time and the 2nd time we did not get to see enough of the fight to judge

              Marg is 5ft 11 , Pavlik is 6 ft 2

              he was able to get off his combos against Marg and not get hit with counters but as u can see there is a huge disparity in height between Marg and Pavlik ,if Williams stayed on the outiside against Pavlik he would get found with the jab and right hands just like Jermain Taylor
              Williams has not shown diversity. He outworks his opponents plain and simple. The only time he tried something different was in the first Quintana fight and we saw what happened.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Live Dog
                Williams has not shown diversity. He outworks his opponents plain and simple. The only time he tried something different was in the first Quintana fight and we saw what happened.
                i agree the guy is straight up and down as Floyd Mayweather would say

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