Paul Williams would beat Kelly Pavlik.

[Sdgiant22]

I also think a rematch with williams and margarito, that margarito beats him.

[Live Dog]

What I think gets overlooked about Paul Williams is that he beat Margarito with a completely different style than he did against Quintana. Against Margarito he was dancing around the ring at exceptionally high speed making himself a very difficult prospect for the slow Margarito.

Then, against Quintana he just walked him down and blasted him out with no great movement at all, he tried fighting him the same way first time out too. Obviously it didn't work for him that time, but he came back and beat him with the same style that had failed, so obviously whatever was wrong had been put right.

He isn't perfect, thats for sure, as his defence isn't the best and I agree he isn't the best at switching it up on the fly in the ring, but I am not aware of very many boxers who are capable of boxing in two completely different ways, ways that have obviously been chosen as the best way to beat a particular opponent. I think it bodes well for his future.

If I had a question mark against him it is whether he is good enough at either style to mix it with the very, very best, as that hasn't been answered yet, but I consider him to be one of the guys with the most potential in boxing.

High Speed? Dancing? Are we talking about the same fighter?

[abadger]

Willaims aint **** the reason people would give Cotto so much credit for beating Marg is because it is a bad match up for Cotto stylistically and if he was to overcome that it would mean he has even more diversity to adapt to an oponent that most believe has the style to beat him on top of that he would have got by another good WW

Williams beat Marg cause stylistically he had the advantage over Marg

And would he not therefore have a stylistic advantage over Pavlik? He and Margarito aren't that different, apart from Pavlik being a straighter puncher.

[MASSMAN]

Paul Williams gets knocked out by Pavlik

I will go with the naturally bigger fighter in this fight. Williams wouldnt be able to hurt Pavlik. Pavlik has a good set of basic boxing skills and good punching power in both hands, which would be good enough to defeat any fighter coming from Welterweight. Williams is a skilled boxer but he is still easy to hit for my taste and getting hit by a welterweight is nothing like being hit by a BIG Middleweight..

[abadger]

High Speed? Dancing? Are we talking about the same fighter?

Have you seen the Margarito fight? It was an excellent display of high speed movement. Perhaps I shouldn't have said dancing but fast elusive movement? Certainly.

[Sdgiant22]

Williams will lose bad man. Jermaine taylor has way more skills than williams and he is bigger, and pavlik beat him. I really dont think this would even be a contest man.

[Live Dog]

Have you seen the Margarito fight? It was an excellent display of high speed movement. Perhaps I shouldn't have said dancing but fast elusive movement? Certainly.

I don't know about that. He wasn't so elusive that a good deal of the people who watched that fight thought Margarito won. He wasn't so elusive when he was pretty much dominated in the second half of that fight. He wasn't so elusive when Margarito had him rocked in the 11th.......And like you said, Margarito is extremely slow and he was still able to track down Paul.

[Dynamite Kid]

And would he not therefor have a stylistic advantage over Pavlik? He and Margarito aren't that different, apart from Pavlik being a straighter puncher.

Pavlik is physically stronger and bigger than Williams he maybe a a natural 160but Pavlik is more like natural 175lbs fighter boiled down to 160

they both have a high workrate both can be tagged easily enough but Pavlik is bigger stronger at that weight and Williams does not have any diversity in his game to negate Pavliks strength and size

Williams is quicker yes but he leaves his chin hanging out a lot he did it against Marg and he did it against Quintana ,Pavlik would knock him out it dont matter how good your chin is if Pavlik hits him square on the chin he is gonna get KTFO ,Pavlik is not a home run hitter but if he hits u on the chin like how Quintana and Marg did he is gonna take u out

[abadger]

I don't know about that. He wasn't so elusive that a good deal of the people who watched that fight thought Margarito won. He wasn't so elusive when he was pretty much dominated in the second half of that fight. He wasn't so elusive when Margarito had him rocked in the 11th.......And like you said, Margarito is extremely slow and he was still able to track down Paul.

Maybe. I don't believe Margarito dominated the second half of the fight or rocked Williams that badly. I had heard that he did and was looking for it, and remember thinking to myself "that didn't happen". However, I have only watched the fight once and its possible I missed it.

[Dynamite Kid]

Maybe. I don't believe Margarito dominated the second half of the fight or rocked Williams that badly. I had heard that he did and was looking for it, and remember thinking to myself "that didn't happen". However, I have only watched the fight once and its possible I missed it.

i cant recall him being rocked but he was nailed **** on the chin in the 11/12 rounds more than once and Quintana checked his chin every time he hit him