How is Joe Beating Pavlik at 168 or 175, a HUGE deal?!?

[THE REED]

Well you believe Joe is a LHW just because he fought there once, same applies to Roy.

He got KO'd by "smaller" men.

Your logic, not mine.

im simply talking if the fight happens at LHW...

is joe a true LHW? NO, he isnt..

but Pavlik is a MW!

if pavlik comes all the way up to LHW.. i dont see it as a huge win...

this is the only point im trying to make

[C'MONMANG']

roy fought at lhw for how long? had one fight at hw and weighed around 190 lbs.. ur gonna tell me he was a legit HEavyweight?


this isnt about roy, you moron... its about pavlik fighting at lightheavyweight

Roy COULD have kept fighting at HEAVY. JT and Chris Byrd did.

yeas he was a LEGIT heavy weight TITLE HOLDER.

[Clegg]

bernard is 43... of course its a big win... and also was a MW his entire career... its slightly different...

and youve got it backwards... calzaghe beating bernard isnt a BIG win..... stilll a good win.... but because bernard is 43 and fought at MW his whole career... its not as HUGE


this isnt a diss towards calzaghe... yall are getting to defensive... im not dissing calzaghe... im simply saying... kelly fights 2 classes below where joe fights no...

No, he fights one fights one division above naturally. Calzaghe wanted to fight Hopkins at 168. Hopkins refused and said he wanted it at 175. Because he wanted to make the fight, Calzaghe accepted fighting above his best weight division. And now that's being used against him?

if i remember correctly joe cant make 168 anymore, which would make himmmmmmm???????'


you get to defensive on joe, this isnt a diss to joe, or a discredit to him... im simply saying... pavlik willl be blown up and fighting at a weight he hasnt ever fought at...

Joe can make the weight. He went 7lbs above the heaviest weight he'd ever fought at in order to get a fight with Hopkins. Pavlik is only going up 2lbs from the highest weight that he has ever fought at.

As for being "blown up", the guy comes into fights weighing 170, I can't see him being too blown up fighting at 168.

[C'MONMANG']

im Simply Talking If The Fight Happens At Lhw...

is Joe A True Lhw? No, He Isnt..

But Pavlik Is A Mw!

If Pavlik Comes All The Way Up To Lhw.. I Dont See It As A Huge Win...

This Is The Only Point Im Trying To Make

Um Yes He Is..

[THE REED]

The fight is at SMW dude...

oh... well then thats a lot more reasonable... i figured itd be at LHW... since joe said he cant make SMW anymore, and he has the LHW ring belt

the fight isnt signed though? how could it be at smw

[T-97]

roy fought at lhw for how long? had one fight at hw and weighed around 190 lbs.. ur gonna tell me he was a legit HEavyweight?


this isnt about roy, you moron... its about pavlik fighting at lightheavyweight

I know that your Mr Roy...but im sure he weighed 200 lbs. I watched some doc thing and after the weigh in Roy weighs himself and says he weighs 200 lbs i think

Glad i dont have to clarify anymore

[johnm is...]

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[x-PeROxiDE-x]

I can see this bull**** starting already, it's all over NSB.

It looks like the yanks have learnt their harsh lessons from the Lacy fight, and are now instead trying to discredit their fighter BEFORE he gets schooled.

As recent as a few days ago, the general consensus was that Calzaghe didn't want nothing to do with Kelly because he battered Lockett (who is a LMW, by the way )

Now the general consensus is that Kelly is too small?

Does it really hurt that much to give any credit to a fighter who isn't American? Because it's sure beginning to look like...

[THE REED]

if the fight gets signed at SMW.... then its a great win for joe


if the fights at LHW... i dont think its a great win for joe....

thats my conclusion

[C'MONMANG']

I know that your Mr Roy...but im sure he weighed 200 lbs. I watched some doc thing and after the weigh in Roy weighs himself and says he weighs 200 lbs i think

Glad i dont have to clarify anymore

199 to be exact. preach bro ham..