How is Joe Beating Pavlik at 168 or 175, a HUGE deal?!?

[C'MONMANG']

im about 5 seconds from blocking you, then you wont be posting **** in here... drop the subject... why are you such an idiot.

i havent called YOU one name in this thread. ONCE AGian I BACK up my argument with links and you name call ....

[THE REED]

i havent called YOU one name in this thread. ONCE AGian I BACK up my argument with links and you name call ....

your trolling my thread with non sense...

we could be talking about gas prices and you start talking about how margarito beats cotto

STAY ON SUBJECT, OR LEAVE.

[C'MONMANG']

your trolling my thread with non sense...

we could be talking about gas prices and you start talking about how margarito beats cotto

STAY ON SUBJECT, OR LEAVE.

I didnt bring Jones up someone else did.

[THE REED]

I didnt bring Jones up someone else did.

is that the same as... "He started itttttttttt"

[C'MONMANG']

is that the same as... "He started itttttttttt"

Theres a pale moon in the sky
The kind you make your wishes on
Like the light in your eyes
The one I built my dreams upon
Its not there any longer
Something happened somewhere
And we both know why
But me, Im getting stronger
We must stop pretending
I cant live this life

I dont care whos wrong or right
I dont realy wanna fight no more (too much talking babe)
Lets sleep on it tonight
I dont really wanna fight no more (this is time for letting go)

[THE REED]

Theres a pale moon in the sky
The kind you make your wishes on
Like the light in your eyes
The one I built my dreams upon
Its not there any longer
Something happened somewhere
And we both know why
But me, Im getting stronger
We must stop pretending
I cant live this life

I dont care whos wrong or right
I dont realy wanna fight no more (too much talking babe)
Lets sleep on it tonight
I dont really wanna fight no more (this is time for letting go)

lol, i hate you.

[RL_GMA]

bernard is 43... of course its a big win... and also was a MW his entire career... its slightly different...

and youve got it backwards... calzaghe beating bernard isnt a BIG win..... stilll a good win.... but because bernard is 43 and fought at MW his whole career... its not as HUGE


this isnt a diss towards calzaghe... yall are getting to defensive... im not dissing calzaghe... im simply saying... kelly fights 2 classes below where joe fights no...

I don't think the weight issue makes a difference. I mean, Calzaghe went up to fight Bernard, but the majority of his career has been at SMW if I'm not mistaken right? Pavlik comes into the ring fight night at about 170 lbs anyway. Everything would carry over no problem.

Look at the physical comparisons:

Calzaghe: 5'11 168-175lbs, 74" reach
Pavlik: 6'2 160-170lbs, 75" reach

Tellin me this fight can't and shouldn't happen?

Calzaghe fighting Pavlik IS a big deal. You have the undefeated SMW & Light Heavy champ fighting the Recognized Undefeated Middleweight champ of the world. How can you NOT sell that fight?

[THE REED]

I don't think the weight issue makes a difference. I mean, Calzaghe went up to fight Bernard, but the majority of his career has been at SMW if I'm not mistaken right? Pavlik comes into the ring fight night at about 170 lbs anyway. Everything would carry over no problem.

Look at the physical comparisons:

Calzaghe: 5'11 168-175lbs, 74" reach
Pavlik: 6'2 160-170lbs, 75" reach

Tellin me this fight can't and shouldn't happen?

Calzaghe fighting Pavlik IS a big deal. You have the undefeated SMW & Light Heavy champ fighting the Recognized Undefeated Middleweight champ of the world. How can you NOT sell that fight?

read the first post

[RL_GMA]

read the first post

Ok gotcha...

I believe the fight though will be made at SMW or maybe at 170lbs.