The reason for the decline of American heavyweights?

[x-PeROxiDE-x]

Uh so you basically thought that those old heavyweights I listed had bad stamina because they are American? WTF?

So ALI would have LOST To Wlad Klitchsko? Yes or no.

Allow me to clear this up, as you don't fully understand the message I am trying to convey, partly my own fault.

In the era's where Americans dominated heavyweight boxing, the average size of a heavyweight boxer was a lot smaller than it is now. Now the Eastern Europeans are involved, the average size has increased. The only Americans who are big enough to compete with these guys, although in other sports, would not have the stamina to box 12 rounds even if they were not. American fottball players, for example, only have to work for very short periods at a time, with long gaps in between (why else would a 1 hour game take anything up to 4?)

The American heavyweights at the moment are too small, and the ones who aren't struggle to box 12 rounds at championship level.

The fact is that Americans struggle because Eastern Europeans are too big for them at the moment.

[x-PeROxiDE-x]

You mean to tell me that you're not the Idiot missing from the Serbian village??? Could've fooled me.

Not only do you insult me for no reason, when I have been nothing but respectful to you, but you have to do it using my own ideas?

Poor form, very poor form.

[bsrizpac]

Allow me to clear this up, as you don't fully understand the message I am trying to convey, partly my own fault.

In the era's where Americans dominated heavyweight boxing, the average size of a heavyweight boxer was a lot smaller than it is now. Now the Eastern Europeans are involved, the average size has increased. The only Americans who are big enough to compete with these guys, although in other sports, would not have the stamina to box 12 rounds even if they were not. American fottball players, for example, only have to work for very short periods at a time, with long gaps in between (why else would a 1 hour game take anything up to 4?)

The American heavyweights at the moment are too small, and the ones who aren't struggle to box 12 rounds at championship level.

The fact is that Americans struggle because Eastern Europeans are too big for them at the moment.

Umm no. See there's this thing called the NBA where huge American Heavyweights go for almost the full game. So your whole NFL argument makes no sense at all.

How come Lamon Brewster was able to TKO Golota and Wlad? Where'd that come from? He's not much bigger than Tyson?

I'm not going to get into South African Golfer Corrie sanders and how "big" he is.

[x-PeROxiDE-x]

Umm no. See there's this thing called the NBA where huge American Heavyweights go for almost the full game. So your whole NFL argument makes no sense at all.

How come Lamon Brewster was able to TKO Golota and Wlad? Where'd that come from? He's not much bigger than Tyson?

I'm not going to get into South African Golfer Corrie sanders and how "big" he is.

I delieberately excluded the NBA for a reason, basketball is nowhere near as physically demanding as boxing.

How come Douglas was able to KO Tyson?

Upsets happen, and they always will, but isn't Wlad the number 1 in the decision again, even after his KO loss?

Wlad's chin is terrible, but Lennox Lewis didn't have a great chin either, and he was still a heavyweight champion.

[bsrizpac]

I delieberately excluded the NBA for a reason, basketball is nowhere near as physically demanding as boxing.

How come Douglas was able to KO Tyson?

Upsets happen, and they always will, but isn't Wlad the number 1 in the decision again, even after his KO loss?

Wlad's chin is terrible, but Lennox Lewis didn't have a great chin either, and he was still a heavyweight champion.

Now I know you're trolling.

So the argument is that the big guys are going into the NBA and NFL. You then use the NFL as an example of why big guys have bad cardio. okayyyy.

You then exclude the NBA saying it's not as tough as boxing.

What the hell kind of logic is this?

[kayjay]

The Cold War ended. Prior to this generation "world" champs were only champs of half the world.

[x-PeROxiDE-x]

Now I know you're trolling.

So the argument is that the big guys are going into the NBA and NFL. You then use the NFL as an example of why big guys have bad cardio. okayyyy.

You then exclude the NBA saying it's not as tough as boxing.

What the hell kind of logic is this?

Are you trying to say basketball is as physically demanding as boxing?

[bsrizpac]

Are you trying to say basketball is as physically demanding as boxing?

We'll since I've actually boxed I'd have some sort of perspective.

I'm not saying that it is. I'm saying that why are you using the NFL as a point AGAINST american athletes having any cardio but then not including the NBA.

Are you saying that "real football" has more cardio than basketball? I think that's what you're saying right?

[x-PeROxiDE-x]

We'll since I've actually boxed I'd have some sort of perspective.

I'm not saying that it is. I'm saying that why are you using the NFL as a point AGAINST american athletes having any cardio but then not including the NBA.

Are you saying that "real football" has more cardio than basketball? I think that's what you're saying right?

And you know if I have or not?

I'm not saying American athletes have no cardio, you're twisting my words. All I am saying is that Americans who are big enough to compete with the naturally bigger eastern Europeans do not have the stamina to keep it up for 12 rounds.

And at what point did I give you any reason to believe that footballers have more cardio than boxers?

You're twisting my words, AGAIN.

[FUC_U_PAYME]

And you know if I have or not?

I'm not saying American athletes have no cardio, you're twisting my words. All I am saying is that Americans who are big enough to compete with the naturally bigger eastern Europeans do not have the stamina to keep it up for 12 rounds.

And at what point did I give you any reason to believe that footballers have more cardio than boxers?

You're twisting my words, AGAIN.

i see you still not getting it