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floyds best weight class would have been 140, no way he stays at 135 his body wont allow him, as it is he is now a legite 147 pounder do we have to weight till we start hearing about his weight problems before people belive he is a natural 147 pounder? The guy is always in shape, thats not normal for a fighter, Mayweather may be doing what Hopkins did and eat a strick diet day in and day out.Comment
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Speed was a great part of his game. But he wasn't as fast as some of you make it out to seem. He had problems with brawlers, inside fighters. Chavez had speed at the light weights and had power with an iron chin to go along. Funny thing is Floyd has been tested at 130 and 135 this is the truth. Of course people will make him out to be superman and forget these details. The guy in your avatar was a great fighter too but your opinion he wouldn't trouble Mayweather? I've heard before a Chavez came along he was similar on the East Coast -latin legends.Comment
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Definately not in the Corrales fight. He was referred to as the boxer against the puncher, who obviously was Corrales.
I still don't think Floyd was a knockout artist at 130. I think he was more like a Zab Judah puncher (at 140 or 147). The proof in the pudding is that he really never knocked someone out... by that I mean, pretty much every time, the opponent got up. Really big punchers usually are able to put people down for the 10 from time to time, but Floyd never really did.
He could still punch pretty well at 130 though.
Yeah, like I said, I'm terrible with history. I just know that Gomez was a great fighter (at 122), and I remember Camacho not having a single good second against Chavez so...
That list wasn't made well.
I don't know if he would have had to move up to 140 at any point if he hadn't chosen to. He is still very small, and I think the bulking up that he has done was voluntary for the most part, because he needed to get bigger to fight in those bigger weight classes.
But still, he could have done some major damage at 140 by the time he would have had to move up (too bad no one good would have been there by the time he got there, other than Hatton). If he could have stayed at 135, there would have been a multitude of great fighters to fight.
Floyd was never tested at 130. His closest fight was against Jesus Chavez, and I didn't even find that fight particularly close. The counterpunches that Floyd landed in that fight were unreal. Chavez put on one of the guttiest performances I have ever seen though.
Castillo clearly tested Mayweather at 135.Comment
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Thats why when it's all said and done Floyd will be one of the greatest fighters to ever do it, if not the greatest....
If you look at it.....
For People to consider Floyd being in a Fair Fight....
1. The Guy has to be bigger than Floyd
2. Cant be the Same Size Height and weight
3. Floyd cant fight nobody Smaller than him under no circumstances
4. Floyd cannot fight no bigger fighters in higher weight division who are not ranked at least #1 or #2 in the division...FOR IT TO BE CONSIDER A REAL CHALLENGE
i.e (Pacquiao vs. David Diaz)
WHAT KIND OF STANDARDS are Those to put on a Fighter....
for example If Floyd fought Felix Sturm right now for the middle weight title I bet people will give Floyd ****.....Saying that this is not a fair fight....
not taking into account that, that would be Floyd's 6Th weight class and Him fighting The WBA Champion.. and also Floyd would also probably be outweigh.... by 20 pounds come fight night night..!!
The standards beset on Floyd are so unreasonable that If you even trying to mention to place those kinda standards on someone else....You would sound crazy....
For example....
What if I say Cotto would have to go up 5 weight classes and get 6 titles
Mostly the WBC Belts while staying undefeated....
before I even consider Cotto to be in the same sentence as Mayweather.....
Would that be unreasonable...
Because Cotto started @ 140
so he would go up to LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT
and capture titles at all weights proceeding LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT while staying undefeated... Before I would I consider him a great fighter like Floyd....
How would Cotto Fans Accept those standards.......
But guess what That what Floyd has Done.......To be consider the greatest of his generation and P4P Best Today...
He came from 130
and has gotten titles from
130
135
140
147
154
While Staying Undefeated....
NO OTHER FIGHTER IN HISTORY HAS EVER DONE THIS....!!! NOT ONE
Not
Sugar Ray L, Tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran, Bernard Hopkins, Julio Cesar Chavez, Pernell, Marvin Hagler, Aaron Pryor, Willy Pep, Roy Jones,
Sugar Ray Robinson....NOBODY....
This is why Floyd Fans say Thats when it's all said and done Floyd will be one of the greatest fighters to ever do it, if not the greatest....Last edited by Horus; 05-03-2008, 03:56 PM.Comment
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Yes he can make 140....
he came into his last fight at 147
You meaned to tell me he cant lose 7 pounds...
And if he can make 140 he can make 135.....
what is 5 pounds...???
**** Cotto came into the ring at 157 verse "CHOP CHOP"
And that was a fight at "140"
Cotto was and is starving himself to make 140 and 147....and he was still good at the divisions
So what are you trying to say....Floyd cant lose 12 pounds to make 135...
or 7 pounds to make 140....
What are you trying to say..??Comment
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