what if: James Toney vs. Joe Calzaghe @ 168 (Prime for prime)

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  • KingTito
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    #151
    I gotta go with JT by UD.

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    • lazyitis
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      #152
      so now an even slower more predictable brawler like Barkley is "10 times the fighter" an undefeated Lacy was?...only on boxingscene

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      • ReadyUp
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        #153
        Gotta go with Joe C because of the workrate.

        If Toney came in for the fight in the really good shape however I'd say Lights Out.

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        • Mr. Philadel
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          #154
          Originally posted by tyson
          Depends on the judges.
          thatz the best, correct and only answer for this thread! anything else would be flat out speculation!
          Originally posted by tyson
          Depends on the judges.
          is FACT! nice post homie!

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            #155
            Originally posted by pesticid
            I actually see it like the Jones fight and even if Toney showed up in great shape against Jones I still think he losses the majority of rounds.
            How would it be anything like the Jones fight? Roy had the ability to jab and hook Toney while moving away before James could counter back. That's why he'd always beat James.

            Calzaghe being a southpaw would not be able to land his left hand without being clipped with counter rights over and over. His southpaw jab will be ineffective beause that's not a punch that Toney has problems with since he leans away to his right.

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              #156
              [QUOTE=slicksouthpaw16;3421549]Nunn - Great fighter that was a 22 to 1 favorite going into the fight and was unbeaten at 36-0 at time time.
              Mccullum - very good
              Barkley - Won titles in 3 different weight divisions and had two wins over Tommy Hearns
              John Ruiz - WBA heavyweight champion that has impressive wins on his record like Golata, Rachman, Holyfield and Oquendo.
              Jirov - Undisputed cruiser weight champion that was 31-0 at the time and James was also moving up in weight.

              This is legendary stuff kid.


              Reggie Johnson too, and Prince Williams was a long time LHW titlist as well. Not a bad fighter.

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              • pesticid
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                #157
                Originally posted by -Antonio-
                How would it be anything like the Jones fight? Roy had the ability to jab and hook Toney while moving away before James could counter back. That's why he'd always beat James.

                Calzaghe being a southpaw would not be able to land his left hand without being clipped with counter rights over and over. His southpaw jab will be ineffective beause that's not a punch that Toney has problems with since he leans away to his right.
                James counters right hands with his own right. Watch the second Mike McCallum fight and see if Mike finishes any of his combos with the right hand. Why he didn't? Cause he learned from the first fight.

                James can't deal with amazing footwork and amazing handspeed, Joe has both just like Jones did.

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                • pesticid
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by tyson
                  All them people are far superiour to Kessler.
                  I might give you McCallum. But Kessler is still young. There is still a career in front of him.

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                  • Fox McCloud
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by -Antonio-
                    How would it be anything like the Jones fight? Roy had the ability to jab and hook Toney while moving away before James could counter back. That's why he'd always beat James.

                    Calzaghe being a southpaw would not be able to land his left hand without being clipped with counter rights over and over. His southpaw jab will be ineffective beause that's not a punch that Toney has problems with since he leans away to his right.
                    Why wouldn't the straight left land if Toney is always leaning to the right?

                    I'm actually asking... I'm still pretty new, so things like this don't always immediately come to mind.

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                    • pesticid
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                      #160
                      Originally posted by DWiens421
                      Why wouldn't the straight left land if Toney is always leaning to the right?

                      I'm actually asking... I'm still pretty new, so things like this don't always immediately come to mind.
                      It doesn't make much sense, does it?

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