what if: James Toney vs. Joe Calzaghe @ 168 (Prime for prime)

[tyson]

I know its only 2 votes.. but how can anyone think Calzaghe would KO/TKO James Toney?? Unless its the ref from the fight against Manfredo

Awesome, huh?

[-Antonio-]

I cant see a scenerio where Calzaghe is effective offensively without eating countless counter right hands. Toney's style is suited for southpaws who come forward.

Calzaghe's excellent southpaw jab will be a non factor against the right leaning Toney. We're talking a prime Toney that is, and everyone knows thats a term you use loosely. You can argue Toney was only at his best for about 1/4 of his fights.

Both at their absolute best and Toney wins a close UD. Calzaghe will adjust and get points in, but he'll have no answer for Toney's counter punching in the end.

[supermandathoe]

That right hand shot out of his shoulder like a rocket.

[!! Shawn]

toney is far from smart, roy jones jr whooped that ass. And Calzaghe and roy both rely on there speed and agility.

You are such a pitiful excuse for a human. Honestly. Toney isn't smart?

[!! Shawn]

Isn't it possible that people overrate James Toney's defense? Michael Nunn certainly was doing well against him.

And Toney's big claim to fame was ****ing Barkley up at 168, but in reality, was Barkley really anything more than a slugger that would be perfect for Toney's defense?

No. That is pure ignorance. Watch the Nunn fight, I beg you. People always bring that up. James Toney displayed marvelous defense in the Nunn fight.

[Silencers]

Toney by decision. His counter right hand would give Calzaghe problems all night.

[!!! Beowulf !!!]

I'm now sure, but it seems as if there is some serious delusion here: Toney was never quite elite at 168 pounds, in fact he's more a P4P gatekeeper than a true great.

I think it's his background that endears him to a majority of his supporters here.

[tyson]

I'm now sure, but it seems as if there is some serious delusion here: Toney was never quite elite at 168 pounds, in fact he's more a P4P gatekeeper than a true great.

I think it's his background that endears him to a majority of his supporters here.

What background would that be?

[MANGLER]

Throwin all those punches would get Joe countered like crazy by a prime Toney. Lights Out by UD.

[Thread Stealer]

I'm now sure, but it seems as if there is some serious delusion here: Toney was never quite elite at 168 pounds, in fact he's more a P4P gatekeeper than a true great.

I think it's his background that endears him to a majority of his supporters here.

If Toney was elite at any weight class in his career, it was at 168. He had more experience under his wing and was more consistent. The only bad performance was against Jones, and that was also due to the fact that Jones was a super-talent and a style nightmare for Toney.