Can Pacquiao beat JMM?

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  • superfighter
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    #71
    Originally posted by Zab Super Judah
    BEfore Pac beat Morales I would have said marquez would have a 70 percent of winning. Now after seeing the variety of punches Pac was throwing I would say 50/50
    pacman has improved in a span of 2 years since he first faced JMM. Now, he fights like he's the devil himself

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    • Manny_P
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      #72
      Pacquiao by TKO in Round 4. I'll give Pac few rounds to warm up.

      Last fight, Pac was just too predictable wit throwing one punch. Pac kills JMM this time in Round 4, possibly less.

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      • chito
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        #73
        Originally posted by j
        can pac beat jmm? hell yeah!!!!! he actually beat him when they fought except for that dumbass judge who thought you couldn't take off a point for every knockdown in that first round. damn, bad judges just really get under my skin.

        jmm did even up the score more as the fight went on, but now pacquiao has shown massive improvements in many areas: he's shooting out the jab very well now(he didn't really have much of a jab earlier in his career), his right hook is vastly improved - better accuracy and seemed to get more pop into it, and his overall ring generalship especially his movement around the ring is definitely looking better for the most part. his counterpunching is also looking very good.

        i don't think jmm will try to fight pac again, at least not in the near future. perhaps barerra is a good next step since he has a couple of belts. besides jmm having no belts, they are in different weight classes. i apologize if some of this has been covered already as i didn't read through the whole thread yet.

        the current pacquiao is not the one that fought jmm a couple of years ago, he's even better now.
        good to see you here again, what's up? haven't seen you here lately eh?

        about JMM fighting pac, im hoping he would coz that's the only big fight i know that pac's ability as a boxer can be put to test. you see, w/ JMM's ability to counter-punch; just waiting & waiting for pac to get out-of-balance before he would throw accurate punches right there & then and pac would unload some big bombs of his, too - that would be pretty exciting fight better than the first one i suppose!

        how well could JMM absorb some of pac's power punches this time? he has tasted it and he knows how vicious is that left hand that if he's caught w/ it he's gonna go down. to me, this i think will gonna get him very cautious. would be a big advantage for pac coz he will use the same strategy, the same one he used against EM the last time they fought! pressure & pressure until the latter bowed out!!

        roach knows that JMM will just counter-punch his way to win. roach would probably try to match pac against JMM punch by punch & for pac to box efficiently. or to wait for that big left to connect and to put pressure on JMM from round 1 until the very last?!!

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        • Manny_P
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          #74
          Originally posted by chito
          good to see you here again, what's up? haven't seen you here lately eh?

          about JMM fighting pac, im hoping he would coz that's the only big fight i know that pac's ability as a boxer can be put to test. you see, w/ JMM's ability to counter-punch; just waiting & waiting for pac to get out-of-balance before he would throw accurate punches right there & then and pac would unload some big bombs of his, too - that would be pretty exciting fight better than the first one i suppose!

          how well could JMM absorb some of pac's power punches this time? he has tasted it and he knows how vicious is that left hand that if he's caught w/ it he's gonna go down. to me, this i think will gonna get him very cautious. would be a big advantage for pac coz he will use the same strategy, the same one he used against EM the last time they fought! pressure & pressure until the latter bowed out!!

          roach knows that JMM will just counter-punch his way to win. roach would probably try to match pac against JMM punch by punch & for pac to box efficiently. or to wait for that big left to connect and to put pressure on JMM from round 1 until the very last?!!

          Pac will blast JMM. If Pac can eat alot of straight right hands from Morales all night, I doubt Pac gets intimated by Marquez' 40 punch outputs per rounds (mostly jabs).

          The only reason Marquez looked kinda impressive (witout the 1st round) last time is becuz Pac was throwin one punch.


          JMM doesn't have the chin Morales possess. This guy will hit canvass once he get tag by Pac's combos and left straight. Pac dint hit him wit combos last time. This time, Pac will KILL HIM. LOL! I bet all my points he won't last 4 rounds.

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          • pogi_igoy
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            #75
            Originally posted by chito
            The first fight showed us that Pacquiao can really punch but it also showed us how good is JMM that Pacquiao need not just to send him three times to the canvas but to beat him totally and smartly!

            The second fight will keep us guessing what pacquiao's camp has been thinking? Can Pacquiao continue what he claimed he didn't finish the last time? Is it true he had injured his hand and this led to limit his attack on JMM?

            My opinion is this, JMM will be tougher to beat this time than the last time. My basis? JMM is a very scientific boxer, he now knows he can't get careless over the Pacman, what he will try to do is get that punches counted in and try to win as many rounds as he can!

            I'm a Pacquiao fan but i know how good a boxer is when i see one, this Marquez is a good counter-puncher Pacquiao needs a lot of focus and determination to be able to beat him!

            It's still 50/50 for either boxer, what's your opinion?


            I myself agree with tat...

            Marquez is one of the mexican boxers that i greatly respect because of his skills in game-planning and his "low-profile" character... even before their fight, as we all know that marquez got him nearly. That is because he let his HANDS DO THE "TALKING" not his mouth...i mean Marquez may get some of PAC but who knows?.... if this fight is on, This would be the most interesting fight ever.....

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            • chito
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              #76
              Originally posted by Manny_P
              Pac will blast JMM. If Pac can eat alot of straight right hands from Morales all night, I doubt Pac gets intimated by Marquez' 40 punch outputs per rounds (mostly jabs).

              The only reason Marquez looked kinda impressive (witout the 1st round) last time is becuz Pac was throwin one punch.


              JMM doesn't have the chin Morales possess. This guy will hit canvass once he get tag by Pac's combos and left straight. Pac dint hit him wit combos last time. This time, Pac will KILL HIM. LOL! I bet all my points he won't last 4 rounds.
              paging bob arum... please make this fight happen. offer JMM an amount he won't resists. make it 2 million! but make manny's purse double than that (4 million ha ha ha pac will become the richest asian boxer ever!!).

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              • Manny_P
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                #77
                Originally posted by chito
                paging bob arum... please make this fight happen. offer JMM an amount he won't resists. make it 2 million! but make manny's purse double than that (4 million ha ha ha pac will become the richest asian boxer ever!!).
                if he ducks Pac again, he's a ****in idiot. He'll be gettin at least a million IMO. Especially if he comes out impressive against Chris John.

                I just don't see Marquez winning at all. If Roach said that the 1st Pac vs Morales fight was a baaaad fight, and it's not the real Manny, then I don't know what Roach calls that performance Manny gave out against Marquez.

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                • JOM'S
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                  #78
                  maybe if we FANS make enough noice, HBO will put some heavyweight money on this fight and let this two warriors settle the score...

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                  • simeraksou
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                    #79
                    IMO, JMM wants no part of pac. He could have had an immediate rematch, the first match being a draw. BTW, Pac really won the first fight if it weren't for a arithmetically challenged judge.

                    I think pacquiao has gotten better in terms of boxing skills since the JMM fight. He boxed much better against morales in the second fight. Lots of head movement, using the right jab, going upstairs and downstairs. We all know that pacman is willing to fight anyone, he proved it by dismantling the top fighters at 126-130 lbs. Question is, besides one fight with pacquiao, who else has JMM fought? Has he knocked out a barrera or a morales?

                    Originally posted by chito
                    The first fight showed us that Pacquiao can really punch but it also showed us how good is JMM that Pacquiao need not just to send him three times to the canvas but to beat him totally and smartly!

                    The second fight will keep us guessing what pacquiao's camp has been thinking? Can Pacquiao continue what he claimed he didn't finish the last time? Is it true he had injured his hand and this led to limit his attack on JMM?

                    My opinion is this, JMM will be tougher to beat this time than the last time. My basis? JMM is a very scientific boxer, he now knows he can't get careless over the Pacman, what he will try to do is get that punches counted in and try to win as many rounds as he can!

                    I'm a Pacquiao fan but i know how good a boxer is when i see one, this Marquez is a good counter-puncher Pacquiao needs a lot of focus and determination to be able to beat him!

                    It's still 50/50 for either boxer, what's your opinion?

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                    • adeelr
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                      #80
                      second time around, pacqiao would knock JMM out. No problem.

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