Can Pacquiao beat JMM?

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  • dempseyfire
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    #51
    If JMM culd make the fight as close as it was with a broken nose and after survivng a 3 knockdown round, I'd have to make him a sizable favorite in the rematch-through the wide majority of middle rounds, Marquez was simply schooling Pacquao in terms of counter-punching and setting the pace.

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    • Chups
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      #52
      I kinda believe Manny when he was interviewed, that had he not injured his hand in the first round JMM would have been finished. I'll take Pacman by KO within 3 rounds on their rematch.

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      • nadz
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        #53
        All ppl there that hate Manny was when manny came into the ring..Yes I Know but when JMM came into the ring they feel that they want to sleep..Thats why they like JMM, they want to shout BOOOOEEEEDDDD!!!!

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        • Keleneki
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          #54
          Yup, I think JMM handles him fairly easily if they get together again. Although I think that JMM exposed Pacman a bit, there are not many out there that would be able to do what he did against Manny.

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          • VPDJ
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            #55
            Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
            The second fight I think Manny will lose a decision.
            That would be very impossible coz the second time around Manny will KO JMM. Roach pointed out that they have developed a new arsenal for Pacquiao. He even KO a 147 lbs. sparring partner now here in Davao City, Philippines. Excerpt from the report below:

            "In fact, Pacquiao revealed that he knocked down Christopher Saluday, who weighed heavier at 147 pounds with a left uppercut Wednesday. That is bad news for Fahsan, who promised to come up with his own surprise."


            Can u imagine that? Pacquiao will kill JMM the next time around. I don't think JMM's counter punching skills will matter. He better run.

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            • VPDJ
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              #56
              Originally posted by PRboxingfan
              Not after the first round, after the second. From the third round on the fight was extremely lopsided in JMM's favor. Yes, Manny kept connecting with that straight left, but JMM countered beautifully. Remember that JMM couldn't breath normally because of the busted-up nose Pac gave him as a gift in the first round and that, my friends, takes away much of your power. When they fight again he will be able to control Pac for at least 9 rounds and will keep him off of him with great power counterpunches while boxing circles around Pac.

              This is just what I think and I'm not trying to start an argument about it. You have your oppinion and I have mine. We will see who is more analytical of the boxing situation between both fighters next time they fight. I, unlike you, am unbiased in this fight so I say things without their nuts in my face (i.e. the halo effect that is created when people love their fighters). I'd love to see Pac pull it out as he is a more exciting fighter to watch but I doubt it.

              As for the MAB fight, I've said, and continue to hold the same position, that Pac is not what fighters expect and often surprises his opponents. If they can't adjust they lose, simple as that. MAB was unable to adjust like JMM did and, because of that, he lost. If they fight again I'm taking MAB in the rematch. I had Pac in the first fight because I thought he'd be too quick for a MAB who was not propperly trained (personal problems at the time). I had Pac winning the JMM fight, slimly, even though I had picked JMM to win that fight. This time, tho, I think JMM does it convincingly.



              Pacquiao will KO JMM if rematch push through. I bet 100% on that. He already KO his sparring partner right now who weighs 147 lbs. for his Fahsan fight. He will kill JMM next match.

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              • xoalvinox
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                #57
                Originally posted by jack_the_rippuh
                The second fight I think Manny will lose a decision.
                I completely agree. As big of a Manny fan that I am, he was exposed in the latter part of their first fight.

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                • psychopath
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by chito
                  The first fight showed us that Pacquiao can really punch but it also showed us how good is JMM that Pacquiao need not just to send him three times to the canvas but to beat him totally and smartly!

                  The second fight will keep us guessing what pacquiao's camp has been thinking? Can Pacquiao continue what he claimed he didn't finish the last time? Is it true he had injured his hand and this led to limit his attack on JMM?

                  My opinion is this, JMM will be tougher to beat this time than the last time. My basis? JMM is a very scientific boxer, he now knows he can't get careless over the Pacman, what he will try to do is get that punches counted in and try to win as many rounds as he can!

                  I'm a Pacquiao fan but i know how good a boxer is when i see one, this Marquez is a good counter-puncher Pacquiao needs a lot of focus and determination to be able to beat him!

                  It's still 50/50 for either boxer, what's your opinion?

                  I'm a Pac fan too but anybody can't just ignore the heart, patience and tremendous counter punching skill that JMM showed in his first fight with Pac.This second fight would be harder for both since they already know what the other is capable of doing inside that ring.

                  yES IT'S 50/50 FOR EITHER and the result will depend on who is more conditioned and who can put their game plan into play and then stick to it.

                  Win or lose I'm still with Pac of course!
                  Last edited by psychopath; 11-25-2004, 11:54 PM.

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                  • VPDJ
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by xoalvinox
                    I completely agree. As big of a Manny fan that I am, he was exposed in the latter part of their first fight.

                    Pacquiao by KO in the early rounds.

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                    • blackbelt2003
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                      #60
                      Pac can win if he boxes more and doesn't rush Marquez.
                      Marquez fights great when his opponent stands in front of him.

                      Pac should fight the same as he did aginst Barrera. In that fight he used raiding tactics...stepping in throwing a shot, then moving back out of range.

                      Against MArquez, his reputation got the better of him and he straight slugged it out.



                      If he moves in and out, MArquez will be too slow to win.



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