Can Pacquiao beat JMM?

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  • chito
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    #91
    Originally posted by loui_ludwig
    Yes, Pacman has a chance of beating JMM. Pacman, even though he still prefers the left punch, has improved on his right hand. His trainer, Roach, will get him ready for JMM if their is even a 2nd match. Look at the win over Morales the 2nd time, the HBO commentators said that EM can't stop the left of Manny and MP is landing good shots with his right.

    If u read on one of the past issues of Ring mag or KO mag, on the interview of EM, he said that JMM is a scared fighter. I will find the mag and post his comment about JMM later.
    JMM's management has been constantly making errors on judgment abt. JMM's career moves. he's guaranteed a US$750k to fight pac on a rematch and he didn't like it and backed out. now he settled in for a so-so amt of money to fight cris john. what reason aside from avoiding (pac) would be more logical?

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    • moy22487
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      #92
      if pacman lands power shots early yeah i see him beatting him. jmm is the better boxer tho so if he doesnt go down he can win the fight. just gots to box

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      • Manny_P
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        #93
        Originally posted by moy22487
        if pacman lands power shots early yeah i see him beatting him. jmm is the better boxer tho so if he doesnt go down he can win the fight. just gots to box
        Marquez will win 1 round maximum if he fights Manny. Barrera didnt win any if it wasn't fo a slip called mistake a KD in the 1st round

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        • moy22487
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          #94
          Originally posted by Manny_P
          Marquez will win 1 round maximum if he fights Manny. Barrera didnt win any if it wasn't fo a slip called mistake a KD in the 1st round
          he won enough rounds in the first fight for a draw.

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          • Manny_P
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            #95
            Originally posted by moy22487
            he won enough rounds in the first fight for a draw.
            that Pac peformance could possibly be his worst (aside from the 1st round). Pac was so predictable that night throwin just one punch. Barrera WHO HE WHOMPED coulda beaten that same Pac that fough Marquez. A 100% Pac will KO Marquez.

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            • DiegoFuego
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              #96
              I just watched this fight again today and I am AMAZED that anyone could have scored it for Marquez. You have to be a ****ing moron or a complete hater of Pacquiao to **** this fight up. Pacquiao clearly won rounds 1, 2, 7, 9, and 10. Those are 5 undebatable rounds, and in the first round, he gets an extra 3 points for knockdowns. That's a Pacquiao victory at 113-112 in the closest possible outcome for Marquez. One of those judges had the nerve to score 10 ****ING ROUNDS FOR MARQUEZ. Give me a ****ing break. That judge needs to be shot in the head right now. Then the other idiot scores the first round 10-7!?! HOW CAN YOU **** UP A FIGHT LIKE THIS?! I scored rounds 1, 2, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 12 for Pacquiao for a 115-110 victory with round 8 being the closest round of the fight (although Pacquiao lands his straight left about 3 times and actually beats Marquez on the punch stat numbers I believe). This was a highway robbery and an embarrassment to the sport. Guess we all know Marquez knew he got a gift since IMMEDIATELY after the fight he said he didn't want a rematch. ****ing phoney.

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              • LondonRingRules
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                #97
                ** Of course Manny would KO him early. Why do you think Manny is making big money and Marquez is fighting John for peanuts for his stripped title. The guy has blown close to 2 million bucks fighting for peanuts. Maybe he can call out Johnny Tapia next!

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                • Chups
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                  #98
                  If JMM loses to Pacquiao by KO (which he will) like the great fighters before him will also be called washed up. I rather not see this fight, Pacquiao will not get credit.

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                  • JaNnO
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                    #99
                    Like I said before, this is what I think Pac needs to do to win against JMM:

                    (1) First, Manny has to be there 100% he cannot afford to fight a conditioning freak like jmm. jmm wears and tears his opponent and then go for the kill. a 100% pac has already won 50% of the game imho. This means no more late-night pools for Manny and no more endorsements and filming for the mean time. He has to start training and hook up with Freddie as soon as the holidays are over.

                    (2) Manny has to be aggressive, but it has to be a controlled agression. jmm is the best counter-ppuncher out there and he will surely capitalize on every mistake that manny makes, even on the smallest one. manny has to take the fight to jmm. jmm is ineffective when he is backing up so as most of the fighters today.

                    (3) Manny should have a good defense. no more of those wild punches that leave him open for jmm's counter. he has to watch for jmm's uppercuts. he has to realize that jmm's hands are also quick and one mistake will turn the tide against him. a good footwork and balance are necessary to maintain his fighting form and his feet should be tucked firmly to the canvass.

                    (4) Manny must have a solid plan. i envision the rematch to be a more technical game starting from the pre-fight skirmishes with carefully crafted words to send the right message to each other. the ability to get into an opponent's head to deminish his confidence, confuse, bluff or make him think otherwise has been a trademark of a superior fighter or warrior. team pac must learn how to deal with these tactics and antics and try to counter anything that comes their way. nacho had done an excellent job of doing this before the pac-jmm fight. team pac should do the same. In their first meeting during the fight, team pac did a lousy job of looking for an early knockdown thinking that jmm was ready to go down after the 3 kd;s in the first round. they figured wrong because jmm stood and fight and almost took the game away from the pacman. team pac should sit down and plan the best course of action. they have all the knowledge to devise the right plan due to the fact that jmm is a pure counter-puncher. he won't change the style that earned him his two belts. to add to that, you just can't teach an old dog new tricks and expect him to be effective. i'm not saying that team pac will make this as the one and only assumption. for one thing, assumption is the mother of all ****u-ups (as they say in i.t.) and any unfounded or unverified assumption is guaranteed to make you fail. team pac has to bring a plan that is realistic and dynamic enough to make room for changes if the situation warrants it. they have to map and simulate all courses of action and practice them as if they are going to happen. if they can do this, they will surely win without any doubt.

                    (5) Team Pac must capitalize on Manny's strenghts i.e. speed, power, and must always find the opportunity to impose these on Marquez. They have to send the message early in the fight that Manny means business and there is no way Manny is going to make the same mistake again of letting JMM take the fight away from him. They also need to exploit JMM's weaknesses (i.e. ducking when throwing a right cross, inability to start any contact). Manny needs to fake some shots, move from different angles, and use his speed to make JMM confused. Manny has to come in and let go of his lethal weapons just like what he did when he kd'd JMM the first time. Needless to say, team Pac should narrow the gap between his stregths and weaknesses. I know Roach has developed newer weapons in his arsenal as Manny showed in his TKO win agains Erik last week. That was excellent but they still need to make MAnny more comfortable in using them more often and possibly polish them more. One key thing here is not get Manny confused during the fight and hesitate for a minute because JMM has a sense of a snake and I guarantee Pacman, JMM will devour him any opportunity he gets. This means, more training for Pacs when and how to use those new weapons.

                    (6) Last and foremost, no more of those cheap socks again!

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                    • superfighter
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                      #100
                      Manny can beat JMM anytime. Marquez is a *****!!!!!

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