Beating Margarito From A Tactical Standpoint..

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  • Silencers
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    #51
    Originally posted by !! Shawn
    I think he can stand and trade with Margarito. Margarito is only dangerous when he has you against the ropes. Cotto needs to stay in the pocket and beat the snot of Margarito then get on his toes, make him chase, then stand and trade and beat the snot out of him again.
    I think we went over this is another thread.

    Cotto can't stand in the pocket with Margarito. Margarito is stronger and more powerful on the inside, standing right in the pocket with Margarito will just let him get his feet set and start unloading his 100 punches per round and you can't expect Cotto to not get hit flush, his defense isn't that good. As wide and slow Margarito's punches are, if a fighter throws 100 punches, he's going to hit you flush a few times.

    Margarito has power, you saying he doesn't have power, doesn't make sense. If he lands flush on Cotto a few times, Cotto will definitely be feeling the effects of Margarito's shots.

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    • !! Shawn
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      #52
      Originally posted by Addison
      It's inherently wrong, because your speculation is not three dimensional. On the surface it works, but you over rely on it. Or so it seems.. You're trying to critizise Cintron's punching technique to make your point. That's BS, Shawn. It seems like you'll twist anything to protect your concept. It's entertaining though.
      It is a legitimate critique of Cintron, and I said it was irrelevant, just as any discussion of Cintron is when talking about how Margarito will fair against Cotto.

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        #53
        Originally posted by !! Shawn
        It is a legitimate critique of Cintron, and I said it was irrelevant, just as any discussion of Cintron is when talking about how Margarito will fair against Cotto.
        That whole post was a Cotto cumshake. You're talking out your ass, bub.

        Take a cue from Undefeated. The guy is here on Earth with the rest of us.

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          #54
          Sebastian Lujan was pretty competitive for the first 6 or 7 rounds, as a matter of fact he won most of the those rounds. Cotto is better and more compact, so it's possible that Cotto brawls with Tony but not for more than 6 or 7 rounds. I can't say, my heart is with Tony but my mind tells me Cotto.

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            #55
            Originally posted by silencers98
            I think we went over this is another thread.

            Cotto can't stand in the pocket with Margarito. Margarito is stronger and more powerful on the inside, standing right in the pocket with Margarito will just let him get his feet set and start unloading his 100 punches per round and you can't expect Cotto to not get hit flush, his defense isn't that good. As wide and slow Margarito's punches are, if a fighter throws 100 punches, he's going to hit you flush a few times.

            Margarito has power, you saying he doesn't have power, doesn't make sense. If he lands flush on Cotto a few times, Cotto will definitely be feeling the effects of Margarito's shots.
            I disagree that Margarito is stronger in any facet. He doesn't push his opponents around, they just back up to get away from all the punches he throws. Cotto will have no problem pushing Margarito around the ring. He is a very sturdy fighter.

            Margarito's power is very average. We have already discussed this. His only chance is to get Cotto out of there in the first few rounds. Once that adrenaline kicks in and Cotto's chin gets acclimated, Margarito is **** out of luck. Cotto has been in there with much better fighters. Much better punchers. Faster fighters.

            Margarito's advantage is work rate, but we already know that throwing punches back at him makes him slowdown quite a bit.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Addison
              How is Cotto going to do it?
              Hittin him in the back and low as frequent as possible.

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                #57
                Originally posted by gerardofpr
                Hittin him in the back and low as frequent as possible.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by silencers98
                  I think we went over this is another thread.

                  Cotto can't stand in the pocket with Margarito. Margarito is stronger and more powerful on the inside, standing right in the pocket with Margarito will just let him get his feet set and start unloading his 100 punches per round and you can't expect Cotto to not get hit flush, his defense isn't that good. As wide and slow Margarito's punches are, if a fighter throws 100 punches, he's going to hit you flush a few times.

                  Margarito has power, you saying he doesn't have power, doesn't make sense. If he lands flush on Cotto a few times, Cotto will definitely be feeling the effects of Margarito's shots.
                  Good post, I agree.

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                  • Silencers
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by !! Shawn
                    I disagree that Margarito is stronger in any facet. He doesn't push his opponents around, they just back up to get away from all the punches he throws. Cotto will have no problem pushing Margarito around the ring. He is a very sturdy fighter.

                    Margarito's power is very average. We have already discussed this. His only chance is to get Cotto out of there in the first few rounds. Once that adrenaline kicks in and Cotto's chin gets acclimated, Margarito is **** out of luck. Cotto has been in there with much better fighters. Much better punchers. Faster fighters.

                    Margarito's advantage is work rate, but we already know that throwing punches back at him makes him slowdown quite a bit.
                    He was pushing another big welterweight in Cintron back. Margarito will be the biggest and strongest welterweight Cotto has ever fought.

                    Margarito has 26 KO's out of 36 wins and has had mid to late round knockouts, he regularly throws 1000 punches per fight and doesn't lose much snap from his punches throughout the whole fight, that means he'll be dangerous for the whole fight.

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                      #60
                      2 things will get Cotto the UD in this fight. His very good jab, and the difference in handspeed. He'll box for 12 rounds and I'm going with UD 116-112 scorecards. Also margarito telegraphs punches when on the outside and swings wildly every now and then. Cotto keeps him on the outside at the end of the jab he wins. His jab and his superior handspeed we'll get him the V. Also body work will be necessary to make sure Marg is just as tired as Cotto is from using all that ring for the full fight.

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