Beating Margarito From A Tactical Standpoint..

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  • IwatchBoxing
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    #21
    let him come foward, I say. BY breaking him down around him.

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    • Addison
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      #22
      Originally posted by Mech.
      In all seriousness though, Cotto's Achilles' heel is slick,fast boxers. 2 words I wouldnt use to describe Antonio Margarito. So to win, El 7 Mares has, has to, depend on his power and his workrate. Cotto I feel has more options, he can turn margarito, keep marg off his rhythm with his jab, and shoot combinations, Marg proved he can be dangerous to the body as well, but Cotto does it with more consistency.

      And I mean, Margarito dosent have 1 punch KO power, not really, so cottos only real problem will be figuring out a way to neutralize Margarito's workrate.


      The one thing that can really kill cotto if hes gotten a big head and comes in acting ****y.
      Mech, I'd say that's on point. But Cotto is going to be on the razors edge the whole time if you ask me. He's going to have to dance underwater and not get wet, as they say.. Cotto don't like to get hit, so I don't think there's going to be any lack of natural instinct to remain elusive. He's just not actually that good at defense - though it is improving.. And he really doesn't completely know what he's doing in there. He cheats a little bit with his strength and heavy hands on some of these cats. I wonder what Miguel does when he lunges in with everything he's got and whacks Tony with a body blow and nothing happens. I wonder what he'll think then..

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      • Pullcounter
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        #23
        Originally posted by Addison
        How is Cotto going to do it?
        Cotto will box and win easily.

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        • dajabgameisill
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          #24
          if cotto can beat margarito i will give him much respect ...


          he needs to give shane his rematch though

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          • tredh
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            #25
            Cotto's boxing skills are improving but they are no where near where they need to be to try and out box Margarito for 12 rounds. I don't know who I would pick in this fight to win.

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            • Hallaqsillaq
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              #26
              Margarito is the toughest welter out there, no doubt about it. The guy is a beast in the ring. I must confess I'm a bit concerned about the outcome of the fight. I've seen Cotto get progressively better, he seems more confident in his jab, it is snappy and potent. I think it could hold back Marg if timed right, enough to perhaps frustrate him just enough to throw him off his game.

              I don't think Cotto will come into the ring ****y at all, confident and focused most probably. The thing is he makes a somewhat funny face when he's like that, it could easily be confused for ****iness etc.

              Both of these guys are confident in their power, this fight truly has epic written all over it. I'm sure both of them know the guy standing in front of them is dangerous, in fact, I think Margo is Cotto's most dangerous opponent on sheer relentlessness and ferocity in the ring, and Cotto has the tools to be Margo's most dangerous opponent, through his body attack and snapping jab.

              I'm rooting for my man Cotto, and I'm feeling good about his ability to come through with a UD, but if come fight night Margo is a man possessed, I couldn't really blame Cotto if he got his first L.

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              • Mech.
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                #27
                Originally posted by Addison
                Mech, I'd say that's on point. But Cotto is going to be on the razors edge the whole time if you ask me. He's going to have to dance underwater and not get wet, as they say.. Cotto don't like to get hit, so I don't think there's going to be any lack of natural instinct to remain elusive. He's just not actually that good at defense - though it is improving.. And he really doesn't completely know what he's doing in there. He cheats a little bit with his strength and heavy hands on some of these cats. I wonder what Miguel does when he lunges in with everything he's got and whacks Tony with a body blow and nothing happens. I wonder what he'll think then..
                I think thats a valid point, but he has more than one or two things to fall back on, Margarito, i think he really boils down to one or two.

                It's not like cotto only relies on the left hook to the body though(or is it a little further south?), he annihilate's orbital bones and dislocates shoulders.amirite?

                Something else that just occurred to me, cotto can use that southpaw stance effectively in spots, and Marg's last two loses have come to southpaws.

                One of them a Puerto Rican.. COINCIDENCE!?!? I dont believe in "coincidences."

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Hallaqsillaq
                  Margarito is the toughest welter out there, no doubt about it. The guy is a beast in the ring. I must confess I'm a bit concerned about the outcome of the fight. I've seen Cotto get progressively better, he seems more confident in his jab, it is snappy and potent. I think it could hold back Marg if timed right, enough to perhaps frustrate him just enough to throw him off his game.

                  I don't think Cotto will come into the ring ****y at all, confident and focused most probably. The thing is he makes a somewhat funny face when he's like that, it could easily be confused for ****iness etc.

                  Both of these guys are confident in their power, this fight truly has epic written all over it. I'm sure both of them know the guy standing in front of them is dangerous, in fact, I think Margo is Cotto's most dangerous opponent on sheer relentlessness and ferocity in the ring, and Cotto has the tools to be Margo's most dangerous opponent, through his body attack and snapping jab.

                  I'm rooting for my man Cotto, and I'm feeling good about his ability to come through with a UD, but if come fight night Margo is a man possessed, I couldn't really blame Cotto if he got his first L.
                  Good post. I'm going to be very candid. I don't think this is a good matchup for Cotto. I think Arum is setting him up to boost Margarito's market value.

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                  • Addison
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Mech.
                    I think thats a valid point, but he has more than one or two things to fall back on, Margarito, i think he really boils down to one or two.

                    It's not like cotto only relies on the left hook to the body though(or is it a little further south?), he annihilate's orbital bones and dislocates shoulders.amirite?

                    Something else that just occurred to me, cotto can use that southpaw stance effectively in spots, and Marg's last two loses have come to southpaws.

                    One of them a Puerto Rican.. COINCIDENCE!?!? I dont believe in "coincidences."
                    Yeah, I have to agree with this. ^ Also, with this southpaw stuff Cotto does have some very unique potential to mix in shots. It's extremely akward when he switches in the middle of a combination and finishes from the left side.. I have no doubt he can put a good hurting on Margarito. I'm just not at all sure he can avoid getting crushed in the process.

                    I'm watching Cotto/Gomez again in slo-mo right now.. Alfonso was landing my no-brainer predicted right hand over the jab. He landed 3 or 4 solid ones in just the first two rounds. Unfortuntaley each of them was slightly off target and Gomez is not a big puncher. It had to be dead red. Cotto was taking some clean shots. Cotto also got caught with a decent uppercut followed by a right hook in the third round. His defense is pretty leaky still to be honest.. Cotto can't get inside without getting clipped, I can't see it. He's going to get touched by Margarito alot.

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                    • Trevbutler
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                      I think the idea way for Cotto to win this would be to box Margarito. Keep him on the outside with a stiff jab. Last Saturday Cotto put out some of the hardest jabs I've seen in a while. You could tell Gomez everytime he got plastered with one he didnt want to walk in. BUT, against Margarito thats going to be harder because hes much taller. But I think Cotto will throw more straight punches to take most of the reach advantage away. Another thing, Cotto should tie up when Marg gets in close. Who knows, maybe Cotto could stand and trade with him and do ok since hes a lot quicker? But I think it would be safer not to do that.

                      I am pretty confident that Cotto will not get a knockout unless its a body shot. But it wouldnt shock me if Cotto is down in this fight and maybe getting stopped from being wabbly. If he goes down, hes going to have to recover quick and stop the windmill quick or the ref will jump in. I can say that I can almost guarantee that the fight wont end with either of them still on the canvas.

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