If B-Hop even gets CLOSE...:

[kayjay]

Too bad everything isn't as simple as this.. Btw Kayjay gives bad K when he doesn't like something. Gave it to me completely unprovoked. Everyone should remember how he handles himself.

It's like you're making an excuse in advance.

They could've fought before, and Hopkins backed out.

Now they fight in 2008, both past their best. If Hopkins in fact loses, there's no way you can find proof in it that 'Nard was really better before.

In that case you'd have to say the same about Mayweather's SD over De La Hoya.

[K-Nan]

haha I give it occasionally. And green k when I like a post, as everyone knows.

That is the idea

That's pretty ****ing gay of you. Back your **** up like a man. Don't K and run.

[SupremeElectron]

Honestly, I don't even need to see this fight to confirm, in my mind, who would have won when both fighters were in their respective primes.

Bernard Hopkins!!!... and by landslide.

Hopkins is probably one of the top five best Middleweights of all time. Calzaghe, honestly, has never beaten a GREAT fighter.

Hopkins has defeated at least three hall of famers.

A young Bernard Hopkins swarms Calzaghe, smothers him and his punch output and gives him a good old, back alley, ass kickin'.

I digress... this is 2008 and Calzaghe has his best chance against an older, past his prime, but still servicable Bernard Hopkins.

It'll be interesting to see if Calzaghe can dominate him; I don't think so.

[K-Nan]

It's like you're making an excuse in advance.

They could've fought before, and Hopkins backed out.

Now they fight in 2008, both past their best. If Hopkins in fact loses, there's no way you can find proof in it that 'Nard was really better before.

In that case you'd have to say the same about Mayweather's SD over De La Hoya.

That SD was ****... Kaczmarec gave the 10th round to DLH, one of the most one sided rounds in the fight. No, THE most one sided round in the fight... favoring Floyd, of course.

I think the SD was laid there to not so badly tarnish Oscar's image and also to lay the groundwork for this rematch.

[Kris Silver]

Yet all of Hopkins big wins have come later in his career?

Can't have it both ways. Closer I'll give you that, but Calzaghe still wins, he was even faster and would have trained to be in better state for a big fight like Hopkins. Like he says, he gets lazy with a lesser fighter, and raises his game when needed, esp when hurt.

[-Hyperion-]

that's some ****** logic...

it could be tat bhop's more laid back gayish fouling style of now is more difficult to figure out than his normal prime style.....in hopkin's prime basically you could beat him by simply being better than him...now you have to overcome the style disadvantage that his homsexual dirty style gives you...

[DrewWoodside]

It's like you're making an excuse in advance.

They could've fought before, and Hopkins backed out.

Now they fight in 2008, both past their best. If Hopkins in fact loses, there's no way you can find proof in it that 'Nard was really better before.

In that case you'd have to say the same about Mayweather's SD over De La Hoya.

He's an old man, way past his prime. When he was younger he would have been sharper. So, if he gets very close to winning, there is a lot of reason to believe had he been in his prime he would have very likely won the fight. I'm not saying I know this, I'm not all knowing, I'm saying there is a very visible trail of logic that suggests what I'm saying. And whether or not B-Hop backed out of an earlier fight is not related, I'm talking about who is better, not anything regarding the business side and matchmaking. Also, I think everyone knows that DLH lost fairly convincingly. Despite the zero demand for a rematch.

[Ironside]

For those of you that think Hopkins is old and use it as a legitimate excuse,

http://www.thering-online.com/ringpages/ratings2.html

look at the bottom P4P ratings...

[kayjay]

That's pretty ****ing gay of you. Back your **** up like a man. Don't K and run.

What do you suggest? That I hit him repeatedly and leave him frustrated with his "you must spread it around" message. Then he'd have to ask around in NSB for help?

Nah. One little tap is fair enough. This is no Anorak ****.

[DrewWoodside]

that's some ****** logic...

it could be tat bhop's more laid back gayish fouling style of now is more difficult to figure out than his normal prime style.....in hopkin's prime basically you could beat him by simply being better than him...now you have to overcome the style disadvantage that his homsexual dirty style gives you...

So according to you, B-hop now is better than he was in his prime? Interesting!