Now see why Juan Manuel Marquez was fustrated?

[xcaret]

obviously you dont dont understand ****.

compare the fights

pac vs solis(a relative unknown)

jmm vs rocky juarez a championship fight

which did better?

Did i ever say Marquez was the draw? Obviously Pac is... Everyone knows Marquez was the one the was always left out.. He never had any opportunity to get the right exposure til now... Had Marquez have a good promoter from the start he would be a good draw but no... Your an idiot to try and compare them both because obviously Marquez was the one with the bad career..


Wasnt Arce on the undercard????? hmm why doenst it surprise me that a Mexican is on a undercard...

[flipside]

Did i ever say Marquez was the draw? Obviously Pac is... Everyone knows Marquez was the one the was always left out.. He never had any opportunity to get the right exposure til now... Had Marquez have a good promoter from the start he would be a good draw but no... Your an idiot to try and compare them both because obviously Marquez was the one with the bad career..


Wasnt Arce on the undercard????? hmm why doenst it surprise me that a Mexican is on a undercard...

so what are you bitching about then?

[shadeyfizzle]

it evens out when the two fight... the crowd was 50/50 Mexicans and Phillipinos... we outnumber you fools in the damn country and not to mention we actually LOVE boxing unlike you pinoys that are just watching it to enjoy ONE fighter

You are 1 ignorantass mofo to say mexicans actually love boxing while filipinos only enjoy 1 fighter. If mexicans that LOVE boxing outnumber filipinos by such a great number then why was the crowd 50/50?? Its not like filipinos reserved tickets for their whole family ahead of time and more dedicated mexican fans were assed outta tickets. Also Donaire vs Darchiniyan, a fight with a filipino fighter against someone NOT mexican still sold more tickets than JMM-Juarez. Not a very big Arenian population in the US and i dout it was a bunch of white people in that arena. So get the **** outta here with that racist rant. Juarez and Marquez are 2 great mexican fighters but noone watched them. including the overwhelming mexican population that LOVE boxing.

[isbj]

I still think its ****ing hilarious a world title fight between the world champ and the WBC's number5 ranked contender got outsold by a couple of cab drivers in Urbano Antillon and Bobby Pacquiao. Lol

Cab drivers huh? Maybe Bobby but not Antillon! Antillon is actually ranked #1 and is pretty much a future opponent for Pacman. So, are you saying Pacman will be fighting a cab driver when they fight?

[A.N.S.]

Had to accept a no rematch clause if he lost but had to accept a rematch clause if he DID win. if not the fight wouldnt have happen.

Damn, that's ****.

Pacquiao's camp did ask for a bit too much.

[Akatsuki]

Bob Arum is the man.. He is a legend on this sport.

[shadeyfizzle]

Cab drivers huh? Maybe Bobby but not Antillon! Antillon is actually ranked #1 and is pretty much a future opponent for Pacman. So, are you saying Pacman will be fighting a cab driver when they fight?

Yep. the both of them. If the guy is so great and ranked so high then why was he fighting an obvious sacrificial lamb in Bobby Pacquiao instead of fighting someone actually relevant to the division like an anthony peterson or amir khan. All 3 obviously need the step up in competion to be considered serious contenders. Its to blow up Antillon's record to make him seem better than he really is.

[isbj]

Yep. the both of them. If the guy is so great and ranked so high then why was he fighting an obvious sacrificial lamb in Bobby Pacquiao instead of fighting someone actually relevant to the division like an anthony peterson or amir khan. All 3 obviously need the step up in competion to be considered serious contenders. Its to blow up Antillon's record to make him seem better than he really is.

Because he's promoted by Bob Arum. It's what Arum does. It's Arum's way of building the storyline for their fight, the whole he KO'd your brother angle is there. Look up the ratings if you don't believe me.

I met and know Antillon from doing some work at his house. He said TopRank has pretty much set him up for a future fight with Pacman if the timing is there.

Arum never sacrifices his prospect fighters to another promoter who can demand options. This is just the trend I myself see with TopRank.

[shadeyfizzle]

Because he's promoted by Bob Arum. It's what Arum does. It's Arum's way of building the storyline for their fight, the whole he KO'd your brother angle is there. Look up the ratings if you don't believe me.

I met and know Antillon from doing some work at his house. He said TopRank has pretty much set him up for a future fight with Pacman if the timing is there.

Arum never sacrifices his prospect fighters to another promoter who can demand options. This is just the trend I myself see with TopRank.

Ok..so you are agreeing with me that he was set up with a gimme to bulk up his record and make him look better than he really is to try and get a shot at manny. With that said there is a whole world of difference between bobby and manny and antillon is down the middle of a very wide gap. Plus Filipinos dont care about the knocked out your brother angle. Even when bobby wins he doesnt make the news in the philippines. Manny sneezes and its on the news

[MetalVomit]

Had to accept a no rematch clause if he lost but had to accept a rematch clause if he DID win. if not the fight wouldnt have happen.

this isn't really true, is it? can't remember ever hearing such a thing as far as a champ not being allowed a rematch clause while the challenger is.