Team Katsidis: An Example Of What Not To Do

[2501]

katsidis kinda fights like Ricky Hatton in a way.

id like to see katsidis vs. hatton.

i dont imagine hatton having a significant size advantage either.

[-Hyperion-]

he also got anxious with his rigt because thats his best punch...but he was getting better results chopping left hooks and left straights in close...

[Addison]

I understand what you're saying, but that has more to do with what Casamayor did in the 9th. The only success Katsidis had was when he was aggressive and got inside, that's what his corner wanted from him, smart aggression to not let the fight slip away, he got over anxious, jumped in and got nailed by a crafty veteran.

Although the corner should have told him to not get over anxious, but I guess his trainer had enough trust in Katsidis to not get overly anxious, they were wrong.

No, you really don't understand what I'm saying. Clearly you don't.

What was Casamayor doing in the 9th?? What's that a reference to?..

You are completely and utterly missing the point. PERIOD.

Actual reality takes place in milliseconds. Everything matters.

Your simple generics and broad strokes are far removed from what is being said here, and the theme of this exploration.

[Njord777]

No, you really don't understand what I'm saying. Clearly you don't.

What was Casamayor doing in the 9th?? What's that a reference to?..

You are completely and utterly missing the point. PERIOD.

Actual reality takes place in milliseconds. Everything matters.

Your simple generics and broad strokes are far removed from what is being said here, and the theme of this exploration.

I agree with you in the sense that Katsidis followed the advice of his corner, in his own mind, to turn up the aggresion. The men that advised him to do so must have seen him daily in training and known that he was prone to sloppy,wild shots. I still feel like, in their minds, it was a tactical risk, though. When Micheal failed to get inside Casa was able to nail him; steal rounds and maybe even hurt Katsidis. Now, I agree, also that the momentum was going towards the younger man. Casamayor was having the fight slowly stolen over the rounds preceding the stoppage. Katsidis was coming on. But skill is not what has carried him this far. They knew his best defense was a steady offense; keep the leather on old man Casamayor, keep him backing up- and take the rounds or KO the old bugger. The corner was trying to help Katsidis seal the fight, I believe...but Micheal was too green to use effective aggresion, threw a wide shot- paid for it- and watched his chance at victory fly away.

[ferocity]

Just seen Katsidis fight for the first time.

My first impression he needs to work on his punching technique his left and right hooks are great but stands too square, and his straight punchs seem to be all arm punchs.

Is former World Champion Lupe Aquina part of team Katsidis? I seen him go into the ring with Katsidis.

[ferocity]

katsidis kinda fights like Ricky Hatton in a way.

Hatton has better punching, balence technique.

[bestboxingonly]

a come forward guy w/ a glass chin will have trouble against big punchers like casa, pac etc... his defense should play an important factor and must improve it if he wants to make it right again.

[Addison]

I agree with you in the sense that Katsidis followed the advice of his corner, in his own mind, to turn up the aggresion. The men that advised him to do so must have seen him daily in training and known that he was prone to sloppy,wild shots. I still feel like, in their minds, it was a tactical risk, though. When Micheal failed to get inside Casa was able to nail him; steal rounds and maybe even hurt Katsidis. Now, I agree, also that the momentum was going towards the younger man. Casamayor was having the fight slowly stolen over the rounds preceding the stoppage. Katsidis was coming on. But skill is not what has carried him this far. They knew his best defense was a steady offense; keep the leather on old man Casamayor, keep him backing up- and take the rounds or KO the old bugger. The corner was trying to help Katsidis seal the fight, I believe...but Micheal was too green to use effective aggresion, threw a wide shot- paid for it- and watched his chance at victory fly away.

Roger that, I'm in complete agreement. The steady pressure that was being applied throughout seemed to be just enough to stay in the black. Anything more and they would have been in the red. Dead red. For whatever reason his trainer asked Michael to get more aggressive with a man who had already dropped him twice. A man who was lancing potentially fatal pin-point counter punches off of Katsidis melon throughout.. It demonstrated a lack of awareness, and lack of proper respect from Team Katsidis to ask Michael to bring it up. Needless manuever right there.. Like I said; if it ain't broke don't fix it.

It's entirely possible they may have felt the need to try and win rounds more decisively because this is Boxing after all.. However, as I've stated here, the results they got in the 9th round should have been plenty indication that they should scrap the idea.

Michael looked and sounded literally embarrassed in his post fight interview with Max Kellerman. After watching the post fight press conference posted here by Boxingscene.com today, there cannot be any doubt a gross error in judgement was committed by Team Katsidis. Lord willing the kid will get another chance at something like this.. Mike is being a man about this situation. I deeply respect how he's handed himself.

[Shalafi]

I don't blame his corner for telling Mike to stay on top of the old geezer, Mike just made a ****** mistake of swinging wildly and charging up with his hands down, simple as that, it was Mike's fault. If he would of fought the last 2 rounds the way he did on the previous round he would of gotten that decision.

[xfiles]

If it ain't broke don't fix it..

In between the 8th and 9th Katsidis' trainer told him to "..bring it up.." Katsidis responded by visibly increasing his aggressiveness, lunging in and throwing wide arcing shots.

In between the 9th and 10th all we could hear his trainer say was "..Stay.." (on the HBO feed). I'll have to assume his trainer said "..Stay on top of him.."

When Katsidis came out for the 10th he was even more aggressive with the attempted bombs and lunging - he got caught and the rest is history.


Tonight we witnessed a Boxing tragedy. Michael Katsidis was less than three rounds from an apparent Ring championship.

That is a ****ed up way to fall short.. To say the least.

What are you implying that he would have won the fight or was winning. I didn't see it that way. Besides you don't know what could of happened in the rest of the fight. Why are you trying to make excuses for the loser anyway? Are you guys dating?