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  • sparked_85
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    #31
    Originally posted by Rompeboca
    Hatton grabbing and holding fighting style was tolerated in England but that **** don't fly on da' states and when he wan't allow to do so he didn't had a plan B. That's why he is and overated boxer that should had never fought at 147 and probably would had lost to Ktasyu if the would had fought in America.
    what about Ruiz.

    And recently Nard.

    Hatton clinched his arse off as soon as he set foot on American soil. He never clinched noticably until fought Tszyu.

    Clinching is part of boxing. It's what Hatton defenitely knows he is good:- at fighting out of clinches, creating angles for in-close body shots,. He's an inside fighter with T-rex arms what do you expect from him?
    Last edited by sparked_85; 03-14-2008, 10:31 PM.

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    • RodBarker
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      #32
      Originally posted by deevel79
      Floyd beats Hatton 9/10 times, but that doesnt take away from the fact that Joe Cortez was indeed biased that night. Floyd elbowed, and ducked below waist-line all night, and yet he takes a point away from Hatton for a rabbit punch that didnt even connect.
      What about Hattons contribution ,, he came out of his corner and jumped on Floyd just like he said he was gunna do , and what did Hatton ****en do ,, nothing but push ,, Floyds uses his forearm defensively , with Hatton coming forward in a bulls rush like he did Cortez did all he could and , break them ,,, and Hatton would go back and rush again ,,, his own ****ing corner told him , your smothering yourself Ricky get some distance , what did Ricky do , bums rush and do nothing again except wrestle and bustle ,,, the stye and flow of the fight was exactly as Floyd said it was gunna be ,, he said on 24/7 Hatton will come out fast looking like he is doing **** , but he wont be just looking like , and then I,ll go to work ,,,,, for **** sake Hatton done nothing except push and wrestle and all you seen was a forearm the same one Floyd always uses , just this time Floyd had a strong fighter that was too **** frightened to give himself room because he would have been KOed in 6 if he had off ,,, **** all this Hatton bull**** , the dude got exposed and Floyd beats anywhere in any ring compared to Floyd Hatton is a C grade fighter .

      The point off for rabbit punch that didnt connect ,, look at the video ****** , Cortez thought it connected and its easy to see why from the angles , whether it did or not dont matter , it looked like it did to Cortez and his split second decision took a point ,, so ****en what points didnt matter in this fight just more sore loser **** !

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      • sparked_85
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        #33
        Ricky did smother his own work,but getting pushed off with elbows didn't help.

        Anyway Floyd was stronger than Ricky,we didn't think that.

        Floyd was to clever for Ricky.


        But Rod lets face it, that ref was ****, he just was. No one is saying Ricky would have won.

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        • Elvin Steede
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          #34
          Originally posted by UMRichRod
          Hatton get over Floyd wouldve beaten you with an eyepatch and ankle weights on.
          ur crackin me up bro. keep the **** coming.

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          • RodBarker
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            #35
            Originally posted by sparked_85
            Ricky did smother his own work,but getting pushed off with elbows didn't help.

            Anyway Floyd was stronger than Ricky,we didn't think that.

            Floyd was to clever for Ricky.


            But Rod lets face it, that ref was ****, he just was. No one is saying Ricky would have won.
            I agree with you Sparked , the ref could have been better , but thats easy to say after the fact , youve got to look at the why whole dynamics of the fight , granted the ref could have been better but Ricky Hatton was as much to blame for all the breaks and forearms as much as Floyd was for putting them out there , Hatton was so hyped and wired he just bullrushed , if Cortez warned Floyd he would also have to warn Ricky for rushing and holding , Cortez did warn Floyd the few times he thought there was more in it than when they were grappling on the ropes ,,, either way Cortez has no bearing on the result , they could fight 100 times and Floyd KOs Ricky every time .

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            • sparked_85
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              #36
              Yeah Ricky is an emotional fighter too much probably

              But it worked for him before against Tszyu, Kostya is a much better fighter than Ricky but he just got outwilled (and with a sympathetic ref.)...lol

              Mayweather is clinical.

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              • eastsdepwrpnchr
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                #37
                Originally posted by UMRichRod
                Hatton get over Floyd wouldve beaten you with an eyepatch and ankle weights on.
                You are totally underating floyd's ability. While wearing ankle weights a blind folded Floyd could still beat hatton. This is how the fight would go down. Ricky Hatton with no head movement whatsoever would continually bumrush Floyd and when he heard the the terror inducing Hatton scream Floyd would counter punch toward the area where the scream came from. This pattern would would continue until Floyd knocked him out.

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                • raysan
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                  #38
                  If he really believed that, he wouldnt be fighting Juan Lazcano to try and get some confidence back, hed be taking the toughest fight out there to try and prove something. He got knocked out by a guy thats not even a puncher, if he lost a close decision or even looked like he had a chance maybe i would listen to him, but his words after that performance are pointless.

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                  • Vladimir303
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                    #39
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                    Cortez has received criticism from fans of Ricky Hatton for his handling of Undefeated, the bout between Ricky Hatton and Floyd Mayweather Jr on December 8, 2007. Jim Watt, a former Scottish boxer, has publicly attacked Joe Cortez for his "deplorable" performance. The thought is that Cortez was overly intrusive, and when the fighters where in close, he was breaking up the action too quick and did not wait to see if the fighters were actually going to throw a punch or not; a scenario that would have suited Ricky Hatton. Supporters of Cortez have countered that Hatton's use of his head, his wrestling techniques and his "roughing" are all illegal moves in both the UK and the USA and that Hatton was forcing the fight to become "over-officiated". Cortez deducted Hatton a point in round 6 - the first of his professional career - for hitting on the back of the head. Some complain that Cortez failed to see Mayweather ducking and almost trying to lever himself through the ropes. Others observed Hatton "pushing" Mayweather through the ropes. Hatton responded by turning his back on Floyd on the resumption. Cortez supporters counter that the "rabbit punch" is illegal because it is a potentially lethal punch. Cortez, in a post fight interview, was quoted saying that Hatton's foul was "flagrant and intentional" and could have warranted a two point deduction had Mayweather been knocked down from the illegal blow and could have resulted in a disqualification of Hatton had Mayweather been unable to continue.

                    The su****ions of bias from English supporters was apparent, with sections of the crowd chanting "The referees a wanker" throughout some of the rounds. Their ill-feeling towards Cortez was further exacerbated by Cortez posing for photos with Mayweather just moments after the fight. These fans were apparently unaware that boxing officials worldwide typically hold up the hand of the winner of the bout and that Mayweather and Cortez were photographed together in the ring just prior to this traditional event. However, in a post fight interview, Cortez was seen posing for photos with countless smiling British fans.

                    Cortez counters such accusations of "over-intrusivness" by stating that those criticizing him were primarily British loyalists. He further claims that his actions were justified in that Hatton's "hit and hold" technique and "rabbit punching" is illegal.

                    Joe Cortez was also the official for the Hatton bout against Jose Luis Castillo -- a bout which Hatton won by a TKO. Cortez was widely regarded by fans worldwide for doing a fair job of officiating that bout . In addition, both Mayweather and Hatton expressed their approval of Cortez officiating their bout when he was first announced as the official chosen by the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

                    The Hatton corner did not file any complaint about Cortez's officiating with the Nevada State Athletic Commission. No official complaints by any party were filed with the commission.





                    What's done is done.....case closed.
                    Last edited by Vladimir303; 03-15-2008, 01:01 AM.

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                    • Gorguruga
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                      #40
                      Hatton conned himself into thinking he could beat Mayweather. If anything, Cortez prevented Hatton from getting KO'd earlier because Mayweather was winning the inside game with effective (KO inducing) uppercuts so when Cortez was breaking them up it was more to Mayweathers disadvantage, rather than Hattons.

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