Calzaghes Legacy With These Wins?

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  • Karlos81
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    #41
    Originally posted by Technical_Skill
    1) No he wouldnt.

    2) You mean talk Sense

    3) You wont answer the questions.

    I'll re ask you the same ones again, but in a different format hoping you can answer them.

    What have you seen in boxing ring, that can make you think Calzaghe has a better career than mayweather, is a better fighter than mayweather or is more skilled than mayweather?

    4)So you think wins over Kessler, Lacy, 43 year old Hopkins and Pavlik would make ring magazine seriously consider dropping mayweather from the p4p spot, assuming he stays undefeated?



    Floyd since 2005 has fought: Henry Brussels, Arturo Gatti, Sharmba Mitchell, Zab Judah, Carlos Baldomir, Oscar DelaHoya and Ricky Hatton. Now muster in his planned fight with Oscar so say by the end of 08! thats his 4yr resume.

    Now Calzaghe who we know will fight Hopkins and Pavlik or Taylor.

    Mario Viet, Evans ashira, Jeff Lacy, Saiko Bika, Peter Manfredo and Mikkel Kessler. Now add Hopkins and Pavlik.

    You tell me who will have fought better comp by end of 08!

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      #42
      Originally posted by Technical_Skill
      Thank you, to confirm, this guy said Joe Calzaghe fought and beat better fighters than Oscar De La Hoya.



      Btw, loving the way you compare Mikkel Kessler to pernell Whittaker, knew that one was coming.



      You said beat not fought.

      Oscar has fought better Calzaghe has beat better.

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      • Technical_Skill
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        #43
        Originally posted by sparked_85
        with your emphasis on 'undefeated'

        would you at least admit that with these potential wins and an undefeated record Joe would have had a better career than ODLH at the very least and James Toney!
        I cant think of one thing calzaghe is better at then toney, apart from being more protected.

        Toney was the better fighter.

        Fought Better fighters.

        Moved up from 160 to heavyweight and was giving top guys problems when he was past his prime.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Ultimateboxa
          Yeh thats a good possibility of happening good point mate.

          So

          Hopkins
          Tarver
          Pavlik
          Dawson

          To me that makes Calzaghe an all time great. Very high up there as well.

          Wouldnt you agree with those wins he would become number 1 p4p.

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          • Technical_Skill
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            #45
            Originally posted by Karlos81
            You said beat not fought.

            Oscar has fought better Calzaghe has beat better.
            So to confirm, Wins over Lacy and Kessler are better than wins over

            Trinidad, Chavez (old but who cares, eubanks was shot too) Whittaker and Vargas (prime) ?

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            • sparked_85
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              #46
              Originally posted by Technical_Skill
              I cant think of one thing calzaghe is better at then toney, apart from being more protected.

              Toney was the better fighter.

              Fought Better fighters.

              Moved up from 160 to heavyweight and was giving top guys problems when he was past his prime.
              Calzaghe is beating the best fighters he has ever faced past his prime.

              Is that impressive.

              Say something positive, you Grinch.lol

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                #47
                Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                So to confirm, Wins over Lacy and Kessler are better than wins over

                Trinidad, Chavez (old but who cares, eubanks was shot too) Whittaker and Vargas (prime) ?


                Oscar didnt beat Tito so you can shove that.

                Wins over Eubank, PRIME, Reid, PRIME, Lacy, PRIME, Kessler.

                So you got old Sweet Pea and Vargas who was never elite.

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                • Technical_Skill
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by sparked_85
                  Calzaghe is beating the best fighters he has ever faced past his prime.

                  Is that impressive.

                  Say something positive, you Grinch.lol
                  The boy is good, but not as good as toney, come on dude, have some perspective.

                  In 10 years of boxing, if Mikkel Kessler is your best win, your a bit away from being an all time great.

                  You cant compare that to the guys de la hoya and toney fought.

                  You seriously think calzaghe would be unbeaten if he got in the ring with guys Like prime Jones Jr, Nunn, etc, this is why toney and de la hoya are not unbeaten, they fought some great fighters, they didnt rack up wins against nobodies for a huge amount of their career.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Karlos81
                    Oscar didnt beat Tito so you can shove that.

                    Wins over Eubank, PRIME, Reid, PRIME, Lacy, PRIME, Kessler.

                    So you got old Sweet Pea and Vargas who was never elite.

                    Im sorry, i would never bring myself to ever compare Jeff ****ing Lacy or Kessler to Pernell Whitaker, prime or not.

                    Keep your opinion though.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                      The boy is good, but not as good as toney, come on dude, have some perspective.

                      In 10 years of boxing, if Mikkel Kessler is your best win, your a bit away from being an all time great.

                      You cant compare that to the guys de la hoya and toney fought.

                      You seriously think calzaghe would be unbeaten if he got in the ring with guys Like prime Jones Jr, Nunn, etc, this is why toney and de la hoya are not unbeaten, they fought some great fighters, they didnt rack up wins against nobodies for a huge amount of their career.
                      Nunn was beating all types of **** out of Toney, and he lost to RJJ.

                      This can go round and round.

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