Ok here's what I don't get...

[Azteca]

There is a big difference between Gomez and Bruseles.

Competition wise.

[Silencers]

I agree with that and it is clearly unfair that other boxers get free passes when Floyd doesn't.

Mayweather-Bruseles is seen as an act against God, but Cotto-Gomez is a nice tune-up that is completely okay. I don't get that.

It's because Cotto vs Gomez and Margarito vs Cintron are on the same card, with the winner of both fights probably facing each other down the line. And Gomez is much better than Bruseles.

[javelin_fangs]

In your hasty knee jerk reaction to defend Floyd, you missed my point. Im not critisizing him Im making a point as to why some may criticize him more than other fighters. And as you demontrated, Floyd fans dont want to understand peoples points they want to bash people who question Floyd.

Fine...point taken.

However, let me add this. My post is based on having to explain at least a half dozen times that Floyd is the undisputed welterweight champion based on in ring accomplishments. Some on this board are suggesting that he should be stripped of his title (I'm not sure how you strip a linear title, but let's operate under the assumption that it can be done for now) because he will have gone on a three fight streak of fighting DLH twice sandwiched around a title defense against the linear 140 lb champion.

With that as the backdrop to the question, you must understand why a post stating that "fact based criticism" is something Floyd fans are unable to deal with got the reaction it did. The people who claim Floyd is no longer the linear welterweight champion also claim to be using facts as their ammunition. Don't believe me? Check a few of the other threads on this board.

But like I said before my long winded diatribe. Point taken.

[javelin_fangs]

There is a big difference between Gomez and Bruseles.

Competition wise.

No there isn't. Look at their records on boxrec.

[Azteca]

Gomez has got Tackie and Gatti on his resume.

Bruseles has got Cotto on his resume. (Well, they spar together).

Hardy har har. I'm funny.

[javelin_fangs]

It honestly depends... straight up, to boost his career, Cotto really could use Mayweather on his resume.

However, since Floyd has set the bar so high that he expects to be GOAT, not fighting Cotto is an EXTREME detriment to his resume.

Because Floyd has set such high expectations for himself, I think he needs Cotto more than Cotto needs him, mostly because Cotto has so much time left, and Mayweather does not.

Fair enough...but Floyd is not going to be greatest of all time. I'm saying this as a fan of his. He can't exceed what Ray Robinson accomplished up until the Maxim fight.

[Fox McCloud]

Gomez has got Tackie and Gatti on his resume.

Bruseles has got Cotto on his resume. (Well, they spar together).

Hardy har har. I'm funny.

Losses to Jesse Feliciano and Peter Manfredo Jr.

Yes, Peter beat him.

Anyways, Mayweather became the clear-cut mandatory for the WBC title if he beat Henry, which Gatti was fighting for the next week. You know he wanted to get a PPV name for himself, and he choose Gatti, which is seriously the best possible name to fight in your PPV debut. He is popular, and he sucks.

[javelin_fangs]

Gomez has got Tackie and Gatti on his resume.

Bruseles has got Cotto on his resume. (Well, they spar together).

Hardy har har. I'm funny.

Wins over two shot fighters who were never great to begin with. I guess there's really no comparing Calvin Brock with Kevin McBride then huh?

[Azteca]

Losses to Jesse Feliciano and Peter Manfredo Jr.

Yes, Peter beat him.

Anyways, Mayweather became the clear-cut mandatory for the WBC title if he beat Henry, which Gatti was fighting for the next week. You know he wanted to get a PPV name for himself, and he choose Gatti, which is seriously the best possible name to fight in your PPV debut. He is popular, and he sucks.

Thanks tips...

I knew that in...uh...2005?

[warp1432]

To be honest, I think that was Bernard's first "Out of his prime bout"

Things started decreasing for him in 04 and then eventually fell his way down the ladder. He's still great, but not in his prime by a long shot.