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  • javelin_fangs
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    #1

    Ok here's what I don't get...

    Tito Trinidad got a lot of credit for fighting Roy Jones even though it was a ****** idea. He got even more credit for winning 3 or 4 of the first 5 rounds.

    Oscar De la Hoya got a ton of credit for losing the first 6 rounds against Bernard Hopkins by a very narrow margin and lasting until the 9th round before getting KO'd.

    Shane Mosley got a lot of credit for KO'ing Fernando Vargas twice.

    Jones was 39 as was Hopkins and Vargas was beyond shot...he was punch drunk BEFORE Mosley even got to him.

    Now, I'm with the rest of you. I'd much rather see Mayweather fight Cotto. The DLH rematch isn't necessary, but did you really expect them not to try it again for the money?

    But Floyd never had to move up beyond 135. He eats whatever he wants and still weighs in at 147. So, why does he not get his deserved credit for not only fighting a guy who is significantly bigger than him but also for shutting him down?

    Deep down...you all know the answer. But I'm interested in seeing the excuses you folks come up with. You know you're just haters, but let's see what justifications you come up with.
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    #2
    Originally posted by javelin_fangs
    Tito Trinidad got a lot of credit for fighting Roy Jones even though it was a ****** idea. He got even more credit for winning 3 or 4 of the first 5 rounds.

    Oscar De la Hoya got a ton of credit for losing the first 6 rounds against Bernard Hopkins by a very narrow margin and lasting until the 9th round before getting KO'd.

    Shane Mosley got a lot of credit for KO'ing Fernando Vargas twice.

    Jones was 39 as was Hopkins and Vargas was beyond shot...he was punch drunk BEFORE Mosley even got to him.

    Now, I'm with the rest of you. I'd much rather see Mayweather fight Cotto. The DLH rematch isn't necessary, but did you really expect them not to try it again for the money?

    But Floyd never had to move up beyond 135. He eats whatever he wants and still weighs in at 147. So, why does he not get his deserved credit for not only fighting a guy who is significantly bigger than him but also for shutting him down?

    Deep down...you all know the answer. But I'm interested in seeing the excuses you folks come up with. You know you're just haters, but let's see what justifications you come up with.
    Well... it already happened once is the most logical choice.

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    • RageX
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      #3
      I dont like Mayweather but i'll admit it people hate on him unreasonably. They dont like him personally thats why they try to do anything to make him look bad, for example if he beats my boy Cotto (I think it will be a tough fight, cant pick the winner) then all those haters will give paul williams a ****** and say floyd is ducking him and it will be only like 3 or 4 weeks after the fight with cotto.

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      • javelin_fangs
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        #4
        Originally posted by DWiens421
        Well... it already happened once is the most logical choice.
        LOL...you clearly didn't understand the question.

        Why doesn't he get credit for shutting him down?

        I agree that the rematch is unnecessary and even wrote that. If you'd bothered to read that you'd have known that wasn't the question. LOL.

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        • Silencers
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          #5
          I don't like Mayweather as a person, but I respect him as fighter for all that he has accomplished, I give Mayweather credit for moving up to 154 and fighting DLH and beating him.

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          • Crazylegs77
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            #6
            Anyone who says they are the best fighter in the world and that ever was should get criticized for what they do. Some people call it hate because they have this uncomfortable level of adoration and love for Floyd therefore they cannot deal with fact based criticism and call it hate.

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            • Fox McCloud
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              #7
              Originally posted by javelin_fangs
              LOL...you clearly didn't understand the question.

              Why doesn't he get credit for shutting him down?

              I agree that the rematch is unnecessary and even wrote that. If you'd bothered to read that you'd have known that wasn't the question. LOL.
              "But did you really not expect to take the rematch for the money?"

              That is the part I was referring to... also him taking the rematch just shows that he is doing it for the money, and that the original fight wasn't for legacy, meaning he probably won't gain much legacy because of it.

              Whether that is fair or not is a completely different issue.

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              • Azteca
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                #8
                This is boxing...not a ****ing sideshow.

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                • javelin_fangs
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by crazylegs77
                  Anyone who says they are the best fighter in the world and that ever was should get criticized for what they do. Some people call it hate because they have this uncomfortable level of adoration and love for Floyd therefore they cannot deal with fact based criticism and call it hate.
                  What is the "fact" that you are basing your criticism on?

                  It's easy to say you're using facts, but when you don't actually state any facts...well let's just say your argument loses strength when you don't use facts to support your theories on "fact based criticism."

                  Nice try though...

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                  • Jim Jeffries
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                    #10
                    Tito hadn't fought in almost 3 years.

                    Oscar was a 6-1 underdog against Hopkins.

                    Mosley was 35 years old.

                    Oscar is 35 and is 10 years past his peak (as #1 p4p back in 1998,) has had 2 fights in the last 3 years and has lost 3 (arguably 4) of his last 5 fights. Beating him once meant something, but beating him again clearly means nothing.

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