What does Joe Calzaghe do thats exeptional?

[typeone]

A negative is a negative, you cant speculate. Its got to be put in perspective, Roy tested positive ONCE, and the steroid in his system was a substance that could be found in sports drinks! Certainly not something which can give you 'extra' boxing skill, which Jones had in abundance. Joe couldve fought Hopkins and Jones years ago but it was up to him to chase them not the other way around, Hatton was a huge draw over here but he still went to the u.s to chase Mayweather and got the fight. If JC was that concerned about legacy he wouldve packed his bags. Its taken JC 10 years to do what David Haye has done in 21 fights

Do you know about Roids and how they are used?? And how long it takes to leave the body..And what roids do what...I know quite a bit about it and I know for a fact that they can be used in training leading up to fight, And then stopped and take other tabs to put your body back to natrual levels...If ya that bothered by what I have said have a read up, You will find that it can be done easy!!!

[pins0099]

He certainly is'nt faster and he certainly looked like he'd done 12 rounds v Bika.

joe has imo never done anything exceptional like that, he may have, thats why im asking

Certainly!! Thats some statement, Roy Jones in his heyday was fast but there both so fast it really doesn't make a difference who is that tad bit faster but I would say its hard to judge, not a CERTAINTY.

Bika was a dirty ****er who used every thing he could to stop Calz boxing him to death, the cut was due to a foul as far as I can remember

Well getting knocked down by Mitchell, then getting back up to floor the guy in the very same round, then putting in about 20/30 unanswered shots to make the ref stop it, that takes some doing

Look Roy Jones was simply awesome there is no doubt, he was a flashier boxer than Calz at times, some of his knock downs are glorious to watch but that can also make a fighter seem better than he really was.

I can tell you somethin if he put his hands behind his back against Calz or tried any of that fancy **** he would have been at the sharp end of "as Calz puts it, a bah, bah, bah, bah and on his back". It would have been a great fight and I do think Jones may have had the edge back in the day and I can admit that even as a big Calz fan, but I think they can both share the same era as awesome SMW/LH boxers.

[TopDawg]

Good boxing skills and his very fast hands.

[big paulie]

Do you know about Roids and how they are used?? And how long it takes to leave the body..And what roids do what...I know quite a bit about it and I know for a fact that they can be used in training leading up to fight, And then stopped and take other tabs to put your body back to natrual levels...If ya that bothered by what I have said have a read up, You will find that it can be done easy!!!

So your saying it would be easy for most fighters to do then? Any fighter with a superb physique is shooting up? What about JC workrate, surely he must be taking something for that??

[typeone]

So your saying it would be easy for most fighters to do then? Any fighter with a superb physique is shooting up? What about JC workrate, surely he must be taking something for that??

Look see what I mean you aint getting it the roids dont give ya skills thats all Jones but the power....In his own right Jones was a great boxer I have been saying that all along..

[big paulie]

Certainly!! Thats some statement, Roy Jones in his heyday was fast but there both so fast it really doesn't make a difference who is that tad bit faster but I would say its hard to judge, not a CERTAINTY.

Bika was a dirty ****er who used every thing he could to stop Calz boxing him to death, the cut was due to a foul as far as I can remember

Well getting knocked down by Mitchell, then getting back up to floor the guy in the very same round, then putting in about 20/30 unanswered shots to make the ref stop it, that takes some doing

Look Roy Jones was simply awesome there is no doubt, he was a flashier boxer than Calz at times, some of his knock downs are glorious to watch but that can also make a fighter seem better than he really was.

I can tell you somethin if he put his hands behind his back against Calz or tried any of that fancy **** he would have been at the sharp end of "as Calz puts it, a bah, bah, bah, bah and on his back". It would have been a great fight and I do think Jones may have had the edge back in the day and I can admit that even as a big Calz fan, but I think they can both share the same era as awesome SMW/LH boxers.

'May' have had the edge in speed, come on lets be sensible Roy was way faster. And what you call 'fancy ****' most fight fans would call pure boxing skill. How can taking out Montell Griffin and Glenn Kelly with lead left uppercuts and stopping Virgil Hill with one body shot make him seem better than he really was?

[big paulie]

Look see what I mean you aint getting it the roids dont give ya skills thats all Jones but the power....In his own right Jones was a great boxer I have been saying that all along..

I know but your saying its a given that Jones was a regular user because he failed once

[pins0099]

'May' have had the edge in speed, come on lets be sensible Roy was way faster. And what you call 'fancy ****' most fight fans would call pure boxing skill. How can taking out Montell Griffin and Glenn Kelly with lead left uppercuts and stopping Virgil Hill with one body shot make him seem better than he really was?

Look he may well be faster but what I'm saying is Calz is plenty fast enough, you make it sound like he's down there with Lacy!!

Pure boxing skill, I dont think so! Sugar Ray Robinson would be turning in his grave, he's an eccentric almost totally non-textbook boxer, it's pure athleticism and as you say SPEED and of course power but not boxing skill, where's the jab, where's the stick and move! Of course non of that matters when you are as natural as RJJ was. Like I say awesome fighter I'm not tryin to dispute that but....

Yes Glenn Kelly, Montell Griffin, and Virgil Hill, his highlight reel I've seen youtube too! But should also look up Johnson and Tarver, your man is NOT superman.

[GranTorino]

What does he do that's exceptional? Well, at the risk of sounding like a smart ass, he beats everyone put in front of him.

[big paulie]

Look he may well be faster but what I'm saying is Calz is plenty fast enough, you make it sound like he's down there with Lacy!!

Pure boxing skill, I dont think so! Sugar Ray Robinson would be turning in his grave, he's an eccentric almost totally non-textbook boxer, it's pure athleticism and as you say SPEED and of course power but not boxing skill, where's the jab, where's the stick and move! Of course non of that matters when you are as natural as RJJ was. Like I say awesome fighter I'm not tryin to dispute that but....

Yes Glenn Kelly, Montell Griffin, and Virgil Hill, his highlight reel I've seen youtube too! But should also look up Johnson and Tarver, your man is NOT superman.

I'll completely hold my hands up to that one , Jones isnt textbook, fights with left by his waist. Having said that he is no slouch in skill department is he, check out jones in olympics. Jones isnt superman but i'd go far as to say Jones is prob the closest thing to Ray Leonard as your gonna get.