What does Joe Calzaghe do thats exeptional?

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  • HappyBoxingFan
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    #31
    Who gives a **** about steroids? Let everyone take them.

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    • BrendanWoodside
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      #32
      Originally posted by HappyBoxingFan
      Who gives a **** about steroids? Let everyone take them.
      eff the roids!! hgh if its good enough for clemens its good enough for me!! i want a 2000 world series ring happy

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      • typeone
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        #33
        Originally posted by big paulie
        And you know Jones only tested positive once, he beat good fighters in stunning fashion whilst testing negative, the point of the thead was to determine if Cal had any superior attributes, apart from stamina id say no. Cal has been down a few times though of course never stopped but then he hasnt moved up to heavyweight to win a title then come back down to defend at light-heavy all in the space of 6 months. Cal doesnt come close to Roy in terms of style either
        IMO hes above Jones,He got caught once how many times has he got away with it?? Look at his body form m8..It has everything to do with it..Compare a champ to a cheater, You cant period..I take nothing away from Jones done told you that..My point, there is not another fighter in Calzaghes weight that is better than him...Apart from one guy who you have named Roy Jones who has be caught cheating..Cor that aint my fought..Everyone of Jones fights are questionable..Its like saying Evander didnt take roids either..Its Cheating..How many fights would Jones had won without the riods we will never know..Let me ask you m8 was Jones a true champ?

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        • typeone
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          #34
          Originally posted by HappyBoxingFan
          Who gives a **** about steroids? Let everyone take them.
          lol I dont give a hoot who takes erm, But if one is taking and the other aint...Then I guess roido will win I guess

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          • Degsy
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            #35
            one thing we all seem to agree on **** CHOICE IN PROMOTER!!!!

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            • big paulie
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              #36
              Originally posted by typeone
              IMO hes above Jones,He got caught once how many times has he got away with it?? Look at his body form m8..It has everything to do with it..Compare a champ to a cheater, You cant period..I take nothing away from Jones done told you that..My point, there is not another fighter in Calzaghes weight that is better than him...Apart from one guy who you have named Roy Jones who has be caught cheating..Cor that aint my fought..Everyone of Jones fights are questionable..Its like saying Evander didnt take roids either..Its Cheating..How many fights would Jones had won without the riods we will never know..Let me ask you m8 was Jones a true champ?
              Now your arguments ****ed, in that case how many times has Calzaghe got away with it, or any other fighter who has tested negative for that case? Jones showed all the things that made him a great fighter in the olympics in 88, i suppose he was shooting up in the locker room with his team mates? As for the physique argument, wtf? so Ken Norton, George Foreman, Chris Eubank, Meldrick Taylor and countless other fighters who came in fantastic physical condition were all juicing aswell??

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              • kayjay
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                #37
                Originally posted by big paulie
                I can agree with some of that but i ask what does he do better than a peak Jones? He certainly is'nt faster and he certainly looked like he'd done 12 rounds v Bika. I really dislike the way he uses the inside of the glove (something he does less these days), he still has Bute at 168. I also think JC v a 43 year old is embarrasing, he has gained plenty of exposure in the u.s by beating Lacy,Manfredo,Kessler and surely a fight v Dawson would be a better challenge. I'm thinking back to when Jones stopped Hill and broke ribs with a single shot, knocked opponents down with lead left uppercuts/with hands behind back, fired off lightning combinations(and i mean lightning) joe has imo never done anything exceptional like that, he may have, thats why im asking
                If Calz DIDN'T give Hopkins the very easy spanking that's coming, most people would still say he ducked Hop and never fought a "top American" -- (the ones who say that were not paying attention to Lacy pre-Joe). Hop is also Ring champ at 175 and it's only just that Joe gets to be the one to rid him of that title. Joe has earned it.

                But I agree he should cap it off by taking on a younger guy. Dawson would be the best match, but in terms of exposure and network preference, he's not likely to be top of the list.

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                • oovavu
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                  #38
                  He pisses off alot of americans and rjj "stans" I think thats quite exceptional.

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                  • typeone
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by big paulie
                    Now your arguments ****ed, in that case how many times has Calzaghe got away with it, or any other fighter who has tested negative for that case? Jones showed all the things that made him a great fighter in the olympics in 88, i suppose he was shooting up in the locker room with his team mates? As for the physique argument, wtf? so Ken Norton, George Foreman, Chris Eubank, Meldrick Taylor and countless other fighters who came in fantastic physical condition were all juicing aswell??
                    NO it aint ***ed up, Joe Calzaghe is a true champoin!! I have gave my reasons they are all based on facts..And with Hopkins he wasnt intrest in fighting Joe many years ago as he knew the score..Thats why he priced himself out of the fight..Agreed a price then doubled it a few days later FACT. Yea Calzaghe has been knocked down but he got up and won the fight..I do remember Jones getting knocked out and didnt even get up at 10..

                    Lets just agree to dis-agree yea

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                    • big paulie
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by typeone
                      NO it aint ***ed up, Joe Calzaghe is a true champoin!! I have gave my reasons they are all based on facts..And with Hopkins he wasnt intrest in fighting Joe many years ago as he knew the score..Thats why he priced himself out of the fight..Agreed a price then doubled it a few days later FACT. Yea Calzaghe has been knocked down but he got up and won the fight..I do remember Jones getting knocked out and didnt even get up at 10..

                      Lets just agree to dis-agree yea
                      A negative is a negative, you cant speculate. Its got to be put in perspective, Roy tested positive ONCE, and the steroid in his system was a substance that could be found in sports drinks! Certainly not something which can give you 'extra' boxing skill, which Jones had in abundance. Joe couldve fought Hopkins and Jones years ago but it was up to him to chase them not the other way around, Hatton was a huge draw over here but he still went to the u.s to chase Mayweather and got the fight. If JC was that concerned about legacy he wouldve packed his bags. Its taken JC 10 years to do what David Haye has done in 21 fights

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