What does Joe Calzaghe do thats exeptional?

[big paulie]

Chin, handspeed (second only to Roy), power (before his mulitple breaks of the left), stamina, time at peak (Roy hit at 29k tf everest peak, Joe is on a K2 level plateau), Hwyl (the welsh will tell you), ability to change a gameplan e.g Kessler (Roy was never put in the position of ever needing a plan B at his peak), bad taste in promoters (lol), the ability to fight dirty to neutralise someone (just like Bernard, but minus the butting).

Thats about it, please note the deserved respect given to a prime Roy before you wade in. peace D

speed nowhere near Roys, also Cal forfiets power for speed with the pit pat stuff, Roy had some of the fastest hands in the sport (ever) and kept the power. yes he's got great stamina i'll give you that one! I put his longevity down to an appauling record, pre Lacy, theres a string of guys there that he fought while champion who i cant come close to pronouncing and never heard of them before or since!

[HappyBoxingFan]

He fights bums and takes him 10 years to unify, oh and he wants to fight 43 year olds.

Co-SIGNED!

[.Mik.]

Fairly simple really.

Calzaghe:

Stands in front of his opponents. ANY opponent, for the duration of the fight, he goes toe-to-toe.

He regularly throws 100 punches a round EVERY round of the contest.

He never loses.

He never looks like losing (if you mention a wide SD victory against Robin Reid to be 'close to losing' then you are a joker).



Name me 1 other boxer fighting today who can claim all of those things.

[P4P Opinion]

What does Joe Calzaghe do that's exceptional?

He does two things:

1. He fights exceptionally well. Calzaghe is unbeaten and has destroyed the best fighters he's had a chance of fighting against. The likes of Jones Jr, Toney and Hopkins weren't interested in fighting Calzaghe in his prime, so Calzaghe had to beat the best of the rest until now. This leads onto the second thing that Joe Calzaghe does that is exceptional.

2. Calzaghe is exceptionally bad at picking a promoter. Frank Warren is the only reason Calzaghe hasn't had the opportunities to fight the big American fighters until now. Warren is more interested in lining his own pockets from British staged fights he knows Calzaghe will win and for some reason that escapes me, Calzaghe hasn't ever questioned this approach until recently. It wouldn't surprise me if Warren has been bull****ting Calzaghe all these years about who is willing to fight him in order to keep the man in his pocket.

Beating Bernard Hopkins, which he will, won't do much for Calzaghe's legacy but hopefully it'll open up the possibility of a superfight with the winner of Pavlik-Taylor 2. Calzaghe could then go out on a high having beaten a class fighter in his prime for the second time.

[Flab]

He slaps really fast.

[flat1985]

I can agree with some of that but i ask what does he do better than a peak Jones? He certainly is'nt faster and he certainly looked like he'd done 12 rounds v Bika. I really dislike the way he uses the inside of the glove (something he does less these days), he still has Bute at 168. I also think JC v a 43 year old is embarrasing, he has gained plenty of exposure in the u.s by beating Lacy,Manfredo,Kessler and surely a fight v Dawson would be a better challenge. I'm thinking back to when Jones stopped Hill and broke ribs with a single shot, knocked opponents down with lead left uppercuts/with hands behind back, fired off lightning combinations(and i mean lightning) joe has imo never done anything exceptional like that, he may have, thats why im asking

Not much, id say he has a better chin but thats it

[HappyBoxingFan]

For whatever reason he's never made the big fights. He's desided to fight guys like Bika and Manfredo in Wales rather than come to the states and fight Taylor and Wright. It took him three years to set up that fight with Kessler and threatened to walk away unless the fight was held in Wales. He didn't even go to Denmark to help Kessler promote the fight there. He's an exceptional prick who has blamed everyone else for the simple FACT that he has avoided the BIG FIGHTS.

Just to put this in perspective. Ask A calzaghe what his toughest opponents were and they will almost without fail say kessler and Lacy. Jeff. Lacy. The man who almost got pointed by Peter Fatfredo on the Mayweather/Hatton undercard. Ill say that again. Jeff. ****ing. Lacy. That says it all.

[PRboxingfan]

Theres been alot of trash talking between Jones Jr and Calzaghe fans lately and i just wanted to try to clear a few things up. I've only been really impressed with JC once (v Lacy) and i've certainly never been laft in awe after any of his fights, apart from a great workrate i dont think he does anything better than Jones Jr (peaks) lets keep things civil!!

For one thing, he can probably spell "exceptional."

I don't think Joe could hold a candle to Jones in his prime but I have no doubts he'd win if they were matched up tomorrow.

[HappyBoxingFan]

What does Joe Calzaghe do that's exceptional?

He does two things:

1. He fights exceptionally well. Calzaghe is unbeaten and has destroyed the best fighters he's had a chance of fighting against. The likes of Jones Jr, Toney and Hopkins weren't interested in fighting Calzaghe in his prime, so Calzaghe had to beat the best of the rest until now. This leads onto the second thing that Joe Calzaghe does that is exceptional.

2. Calzaghe is exceptionally bad at picking a promoter. Frank Warren is the only reason Calzaghe hasn't had the opportunities to fight the big American fighters until now. Warren is more interested in lining his own pockets from British staged fights he knows Calzaghe will win and for some reason that escapes me, Calzaghe hasn't ever questioned this approach until recently. It wouldn't surprise me if Warren has been bull****ting Calzaghe all these years about who is willing to fight him in order to keep the man in his pocket.

Beating Bernard Hopkins, which he will, won't do much for Calzaghe's legacy but hopefully it'll open up the possibility of a superfight with the winner of Pavlik-Taylor 2. Calzaghe could then go out on a high having beaten a class fighter in his prime for the second time.

Wow. That is exactly what I have been trying to say for a week. You said it clearly and objectively without an ounce of anger. Well done sir. Well done.

[DrewWoodside]

Wow. That is exactly what I have been trying to say for a week. You said it clearly and objectively without an ounce of anger. Well done sir. Well done.

..Hopefully.. but.. sounds a little too good to be true.. I think people can be fanboys if they want that's fine, we're all fans. But when Cal fans are justifying Cal's legacy i really think they should stop mentioning that he held a belt for 10 years. Like it was some dominant reign in which he crushed all in his way. The man's an excellent fighter but Frank Warren is no fool when it comes to the buck, and he kept his risk/reward overwhelmingly safe.