Does being "street" in boxing matter anymore?

[JoeyBB]

Dwiens was talking about chin.


Yes a privileged kid can be trained to be a boxer, if he has the genetic makeup.

Many of our best boxers recently were middle class or higher in upbringing

Like who?

Hatton from reports grew up in a somewhat shady area. Mayweather was unprivileged. Pavlik was not a ****** kid, but not rich by any means. Youngstown aint exactly a white collar city with alot of dough. Hopkins was a prison *****.

Oh wait....you're talking about Wlad Klitschko. The same guy who ****s himself when he gets hit. It's obvious he is not used to getting hit which is why he's so cautious. He was probably a phenom and battered everyone on his way up to the top in the amateurs.

[SkillspayBills]

Being street can be attributed to your tenacious attitude in the ring. It can give you sort of edge when you fight but nowadays fighters have used other circumstances to amp themselves up.

[JoeyBB]

Okay, I'm ****** then.

Apparantly growing up in a tough, anti-pampering environment, doesn't weed out the weaklings, and doesn't make people tougher than they would if they grew up in the suburbs.

I agree with you because i have seen this **** first hand. Does not mean they have talent and great physical abilities, but for toughness....these guys are on a different level imo.

Dont mind kayjay though. He has a superiority complex. Or an inferiority complex. Cant decide which one.

But we do know he is insecure.

[Fox McCloud]

Dwiens was talking about chin.


Yes a privileged kid can be trained to be a boxer, if he has the genetic makeup.

Many of our best boxers recently were middle class or higher in upbringing

Chin means toughness to head shots in my opinion. Maybe I didn't use correct terminology.

[Feint]

Okay, I'm ****** then.

Apparantly growing up in a tough, anti-pampering environment, doesn't weed out the weaklings, and doesn't make people tougher than they would if they grew up in the suburbs.

No, I don't think you are ******. Nor are you necessarily wrong about your living conditions being part of making who you are as a boxer. But being tough is about overcoming obstacles, and growing up poor does not necessarily mean that your obstacles are any more arduous than someone growing up middle-class. They are simply different.

[beauty]

Growing up in tougher environments does indeed make one psychologically tougher. One's socialization plays a part in every aspect of their life, and one would be foolish to think otherwise.

Can we isolate that and say success or failure in this sport is contingent on this? Absolutely not. However, your psyche as well as your physical abilities do indeed cultivate a good fighter. There are many who are just tougher because all they are familiar with is being rough and being tough.

It's not imperative. However, when presented in a fighter's situation it can't be discredited as irrelevant.

[kayjay]

Like who?

Hatton from reports grew up in a somewhat shady area. Mayweather was unprivileged. Pavlik was not a ****** kid, but not rich by any means. Youngstown aint exactly a white collar city with alot of dough. Hopkins was a prison *****.

Oh wait....you're talking about Wlad Klitschko. The same guy who ****s himself when he gets hit. It's obvious he is not used to getting hit which is why he's so cautious. He was probably a phenom and battered everyone on his way up to the top in the amateurs.

Mayweather was NOT underprivileged. There's nothing 'street' about that little brat

Klitschko of course.

Barrera they say was fairly well off as a kid.

Calzaghe from a very solid family.

Kessler had economic stability by all appearances

Roy Jones is a hick

[JoeyBB]

No, I don't think you are ******. Nor are you necessarily wrong about your living conditions being part of making who you are as a boxer. But being tough is about overcoming obstacles, and growing up poor does not necessarily mean that your obstacles are any more arduous than someone growing up middle-class. They are simply different.

Yeah...right. Now you are just talking ****.

How can you compare something that Edison Miranda did to a guy like me who can barely afford college.

Big, big, big difference buddy.

What 'obstacles' do pampered people have really, that can compare?

[Fox McCloud]

I agree with you because i have seen this **** first hand. Does not mean they have talent and great physical abilities, but for toughness....these guys are on a different level imo.

Dont mind kayjay though. He has a superiority complex. Or an inferiority complex. Cant decide which one.

But we do know he is insecure.

You're smokin', right? I thought you ****in hated me and wouldn't agree with anything I said if your life depended on it.

[beauty]

Mayweather was underprivileged if he lived 7 people in a one bedroom apartment, as he claims. If his mother was drug addicted and his father incarcerated, I would equate that as being underprivileged.