Does being "street" in boxing matter anymore?

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  • ferocity
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    #11
    Originally posted by JoeyBB
    ....yeah but which guys fight anymore?

    I can look at any good fighter from the 80's and they dont have a million stinker ass fights on their record. Fights where they go to a decision and no power punches are thrown just outside jabbing.

    The guys today are......really really soft. IMO.
    Fernando Vargas and Erik Morales and Ricardo Mayorga are street and they always put it on the line everytime they fought.

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      #12
      Originally posted by kayjay
      Chin is all physiology, wiener. You're born with chin or you're not. It's the shape and breadth of your jawline, the density of the jawbone, the shortness of the neck, etc.

      Anyone who uses "street" to describe a fighter's advantages is an absolute moron who should never speak let alone post on a public forum.
      Your a ****ing dweeby dude that needs numbers or science to explain everything to you.

      You're going to tell me that these mexicans by fluke chance have monster chins?

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        #13
        Originally posted by JoeyBB
        Your a ****ing dweeby dude that needs numbers or science to explain everything to you.

        You're going to tell me that these mexicans by fluke chance have monster chins?
        I explained all that in the race thread.

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          #14
          Originally posted by kayjay
          Chin is all physiology, wiener. You're born with chin or you're not. It's the shape and breadth of your jawline, the density of the jawbone, the shortness of the neck, etc.

          Anyone who uses "street" to describe a fighter's advantages is an absolute moron who should never speak let alone post on a public forum.
          So wouldn't being "street" weed out the weak-chinned folk from tough places?

          Any professional fighter who is street is a fighter who would make Darwin proud, because he survived in a hostile environment.

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            #15
            Originally posted by kayjay
            I explained all that in the race thread.
            By the way I wasn't talking about chin, but overall toughness.

            I dont need a book or some simple fact to tell me something.

            The guys back in the day were tougher...and it did matter.

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              #16
              Originally posted by DWiens421
              So wouldn't being "street" weed out the weak-chinned folk from tough places?

              Any professional fighter who is street is a fighter who would make Darwin proud, because he survived in a hostile environment.
              Street fighting is not boxing, it doesn't isolate the same strengths and weaknesses. If you took punches in a streetfight like you do in a boxing ring, you'd be dead. It's about landing the first clean punch or two, not outlasting someone.

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                #17
                Originally posted by kayjay
                Street fighting is not boxing, it doesn't isolate the same strengths and weaknesses. If you took punches in a streetfight like you do in a boxing ring, you'd be dead. It's about landing the first clean punch or two, not outlasting someone.
                Obviously. We are not talking about chin though bro. You're going to argue that more priviliged kids are authentically as tough, or tougher? I think that's a stretch if you are personally.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by JoeyBB
                  Meaningless. Tell that to Hagler and Duran who were caged animals.
                  I would suggest that Hagler and Duran would have been damn good fighters no matter what their upbringing was. Fighting is something you have inside you, it's part of your soul. Not what street you grew up on.

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                    #19
                    Okay, I'm ****** then.

                    Apparantly growing up in a tough, anti-pampering environment, doesn't weed out the weaklings, and doesn't make people tougher than they would if they grew up in the suburbs.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by JoeyBB
                      Obviously. We are not talking about chin though bro. You're going to argue that more priviliged kids are authentically as tough, or tougher? I think that's a stretch if you are personally.
                      Dwiens was talking about chin.


                      Yes a privileged kid can be trained to be a boxer, if he has the genetic makeup.

                      Many of our best boxers recently were middle class or higher in upbringing

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