Does being "street" in boxing matter anymore?

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  • Vanilla Gorilla
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    #51
    Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
    Being street NEVER mattered. Being street tough, from the ******, the streets, etc etc.. a gang member, having been in prison, etc etc etc ETC ETC is all nonsense.

    Well being dirt poor from the streets does help your chances at becoming a prize fighter as you dont know how to do anything else. But I guess it really doesnt matter.

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    • TopDawg
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      #52
      Originally posted by DWiens421
      Judah wasn't able to drive-by Baldomir to retain his welterweight championship after all.
      HAHA, that line had me cracking up right there.

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      • Feint
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        #53
        Originally posted by beauty
        Excuse the over-generalization, if that was implied. However, of cases I have witnessed (I grew up in a suburb - upper middle.) and studied (psych. courses), it has significantly defined one's character.
        Fair point. You have to go on what you personally witnessed. I can't argue that.

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        • Feint
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          #54
          I will say boxing tends to be a sport for the underprivileged, and to be in boxing you must be tough. So maybe it’s simply a matter of the toughest contingent of the underprivileged entering boxing rather than the underprivileged being tougher than any other part of society...

          Who knows? This is an interesting topic.

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          • beauty
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            #55
            Originally posted by Feint
            I will say boxing tends to be a sport for the underprivileged, and to be in boxing you must be tough. So maybe it’s simply a matter of the toughest contingent of the underprivileged entering boxing rather than the underprivileged being tougher than any other part of society...

            Who knows? This is an interesting topic.


            Great point.

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            • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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              #56
              Originally posted by DWiens421
              Do you think Ricardo Mayorga or Edison Miranda would be the fighter they are today if they had grown up in Buckingham Palace? The fact that they dealt with rejection, and being poor and all that probably at least contributed to their "**** everyone" mindset. At least I would think so. Being gangster doesn't matter though. Judah wasn't able to drive-by Baldomir to retain his welterweight championship after all.
              Listen, Kelly Pavlick grew up in little old Youngstown and blitzed Miranda. DeLahoy is as non street as u canget and he drilled Mayorga. Muhammad Ali was MIDDLE CLASS, and Roy Jones grew up on a farm on a street that is the type that has a house every 100 yards. I learned early on in boxing that city kids, street kids, poor kids, tough guys, marines, army guys, guys who know karate, guys who have hands in the street etc etc etc dont show any moreheart, desire etc etc than a thousand boxers who come from tewo parent middle class homes.

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              • Fox McCloud
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                #57
                Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
                Listen, Kelly Pavlick grew up in little old Youngstown and blitzed Miranda. DeLahoy is as non street as u canget and he drilled Mayorga. Muhammad Ali was MIDDLE CLASS, and Roy Jones grew up on a farm on a street that is the type that has a house every 100 yards. I learned early on in boxing that city kids, street kids, poor kids, tough guys, marines, army guys, guys who know karate, guys who have hands in the street etc etc etc dont show any moreheart, desire etc etc than a thousand boxers who come from tewo parent middle class homes.
                You may be right (hell, you probably are, you have experience with it)... It just seems to me that the poor, street guys are the only guys who are able to get in the ring, show no boxing skills and still win their fights.

                Mayorga and Miranda did lose to De La Hoya and Pavlik, but that is because they were beaten by fighters who knew how to deliver punches hard enough to get respect before the other guy could get off.

                I don't know, I might be imagining this ****, but... really, only the toughest can brawl with no skill, and the toughest are "street", at least that I have seen.

                I'm still a noob though, so set me straight if I am incorrect.

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                • ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
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                  #58
                  Toughest? Do they come tougher than Vinny Paz, Holyfield, Gatti, etc? Those guys arent street. Who in history was TOUGHER than middle class Muhammad Ali? Trust me, my man. Tough guys come in all shapes and sizes, ethnic backgrounds, colors and from all cities and towns, ******s and suburbs. There is NO prerequisite for toughness.

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                  • Fox McCloud
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by ICEMAN JOHN SCULLY
                    Toughest? Do they come tougher than Vinny Paz, Holyfield, Gatti, etc? Those guys arent street. Who in history was TOUGHER than middle class Muhammad Ali? Trust me, my man. Tough guys come in all shapes and sizes, ethnic backgrounds, colors and from all cities and towns, ******s and suburbs. There is NO prerequisite for toughness.
                    Alright Ice, I'll take your word for it.

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                    • Banderivets
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                      #60
                      It doesnt. I grew up in a higher middle class family and all I did as a kid was fight all the time, did well in school and finishing university now.

                      Am I tough? Not for me to judge, but whether you like to fight or not has no relation to your background. Your born with it.

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