Joe Calzaghe's 0 Will Go

[letsgobrady]

Yes he lost twice to Taylor, one fight that most thought he won. He was very defensive in that fight and still managed to win the late rounds on all scorecards but it wasn't enough.

The thing is, Taylor wasn't giving him much. Taylor was very defensive himself. If Calzaghe like you say, comes to outwork Hopkins and throw that ******y-fighting-out-of-spider-webs style of his, he will get pot shotted all night with counters. One way or the other, he will not land much on Hopkins.

Hopkins is too crafy for Joe.

taylor was very defensive in the fisrt fight and calzaghe just needs to be more offensive than bernard and land more than bernard he doesn't need to land 50 punches a round especially when bernard wins fights only landing 4 punches a round

[Vladimir303]

That's a very ****** statement, if US is so good, where are all the US fighters in HW, the most popular division in the world? Or SMW for that matter, and yes, hopkins canceled the fight. If Hopkins is P4P #4, and is from USA, he must be good right? But then again, like you say, he IS 43 years old, and he is way past his prime, yet somehow he is still P4P. Is it because he's maybe American? Also, I asked you this question 2 times and you didn't answer, if Calzaghe is such an overrated bum, that doesn't fight in US, who should he fight other than the highest ranked current LHW which he's fighting in the us?Face it, Calzaghe will get no credit if he wins this match even though he's beating a P4P fighter. Typical underrating of a non-American fighter.

He is a top 5 P4p fighter because he has defeated other Top p4p fighters at that time in Tarver and Winky Wright. Just facts. You can discredit those victories but those two were top 10 p4p.


Of course he will not get credit. You yourself say that Hopkins is only p4p because he is american. You discredit Hopkins as a fighter and how can you expect Joe to receive any credit?

[Ironside]

He is a top 5 P4p fighter because he has defeated other Top p4p fighters at that time in Tarver and Winky Wright. Just facts. You can discredit those victories but those two were top 10 p4p.


Of course he will not get credit. You yourself say that Hopkins is only p4p because he is american. You discredit Hopkins as a fighter and how can you expect Joe to receive any credit?

OK, let's say I am discrediting Hopkins' wins, and I honestly don't think he deserves to be top 5 P4P, but most people do, so let's go with that. Look at what the poster I quoted said, he says Hopkins deserves to be P4P, but then he says Calzaghe is just beating an old man and should get no credit. I'm saying if he's an old man, how is he P4P? And since he is considered P4P by many people, why shouldn't Calzaghe get credit?

[Vladimir303]

taylor was very defensive in the fisrt fight and calzaghe just needs to be more offensive than bernard and land more than bernard he doesn't need to land 50 punches a round especially when bernard wins fights only landing 4 punches a round

Again my young lil friend. A counter puncher throws when he sees an oppritunity to throw. If Calzaghe gets wild thinking "Oh I'm gonna outwork this old man and just throw more then he does" he will get exposed. Tito Trinidad was an easy target practice because he thought he could just come in and blow Hopkins out of there.

It didn't work and Calzaghe's gameplan isn't gonna work. The best you can hope for is a close ugly fight.....praying afterwards for the judges to swing it Calzaghe's way.

[Vladimir303]

OK, let's say I am discrediting Hopkins' wins, and I honestly don't think he deserves to be top 5 P4P, but most people do, so let's go with that. Look at what the poster I quoted said, he says Hopkins deserves to be P4P, but then he says Calzaghe is just beating an old man and should get no credit. I'm saying if he's an old man, how is he P4P?

That's his opinion. And my opinion is the opposite. As you can see, I created this thread. I'm picking Hopkins by a very ugly decision. I however think that Hopkins shouldn't get any credit for beating Calzaghe.

Maybe if it were at 168, then it would be historical with B-Hop stopping his supper-middleweight reign of title defenses. At Light-heavy, he is just beating a overrated, for the most part of his career over protected B+ fighter in Joe.

This will not enhance Bernard's legacy at all. It's already sealed. He has a place in the history books, and a win over Joe will not enhance it in any way.

[letsgobrady]

Again my young lil friend. A counter puncher throws when he sees an oppritunity to throw. If Calzaghe gets wild thinking "Oh I'm gonna outwork this old man and just throw more then he does" he will get exposed. Tito Trinidad was an easy target practice because he thought he could just come in blow Hopkins out of there.

It didn't work and Calzaghe gameplan isn't gonna work. The best you can hope for is a close ugly fight.....praying afterwards for the judges to swing it Calzaghe's way.

keep thinking that calaghe just throws wild punches he knows what he's doing in the ring he just looks awkward at times but he looked good in the kessler fight i didn't see any wild slapping in that fight

[letsgobrady]

joe will be hopkins best opponent behind roy jones

[MayweatherJr.]

That's a very ****** statement, if US is so good, where are all the US fighters in HW, the most popular division in the world? Or SMW for that matter, and yes, hopkins canceled the fight. If Hopkins is P4P #4, and is from USA, he must be good right? But then again, like you say, he IS 43 years old, and he is way past his prime, yet somehow he is still P4P. Is it because he's maybe American? Also, I asked you this question 2 times and you didn't answer, if Calzaghe is such an overrated bum, that doesn't fight in US, who should he fight other than the highest ranked current LHW which he's fighting in the us?Face it, Calzaghe will get no credit if he wins this match even though he's beating a P4P fighter. Typical underrating of a non-American fighter.

maybe by understanding what i've posted you won't post a ****** repy. i didn't say YOU HAVE TO FIGHT AN AMERICAN! i said you have to fight in america cause it's where the best fighters in the world fight! first of all i didn't say he's the p4p #4, you did! i see what you're trying to do. bigging up an old hopkins so when joe beats him, he's the one p4p best in the world. nice try! there's nothing really for joe to fight to be considered great cause all the great fighters are old and past their primes. but who's fault is that? he waited for hopkins to age and now he wants recognition? gimme a break! there's noone to blame but himself.

[Ironside]

That's his opinion. And my opinion is the opposite. As you can see, I created this thread. I'm picking Hopkins by a very ugly decision. I however think that Hopkins shouldn't get any credit for beating Calzaghe.

Maybe if it were at 168, then it would be historical with B-Hop stopping his supper-middleweight reign of title defenses. At Light-heavy, he is just beating a overrated, for the most part of his career over protected B+ fighter in Joe.

This will not enhance Bernard's legacy at all. It's already sealed. He has a place in the history books, and a win over Joe will not enhance it in any way.

OK I respect that, at least you think Hopkins is going to win, I was just arguing the fact that the previous poster kept saying Hopkins is P4P but Calzaghe gets no credit for fighting him. I must say he didn't know **** about boxing. Also I agree, Hopkins is already in the history books, which is another reason why I'm not sure if he's very motivated for this fight or not, guess we'll see.

[Vladimir303]

keep thinking that calaghe just throws wild punches he knows what he's doing in the ring he just looks awkward at times but he looked good in the kessler fight i didn't see any wild slapping in that fight

This footage disproves that. You need to see again. .