Just how great is james toney?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Parody
    Banned
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Apr 2005
    • 13685
    • 538
    • 734
    • 21,205

    #131
    Originally posted by Ironside
    Prime or not, Tarver would beat Jones.
    Hell No.

    Pre-2003 version beats Tarver, lets not forget Jones won in their first fight, and he was coming down from Heavyweight.

    Comment

    • -Antonio-
      -Antonio-
      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
      • Jun 2005
      • 24259
      • 629
      • 163
      • 38,153

      #132
      Yeah I mean when you look at the Toney in the Littles and Barkley fight related to the Jones fight, its obvious he wasnt at his best physically and mentally. Still doesnt excuse it though, and Jones imo would have always beaten James.

      The Griffin fights were supposed to get Toney a rematch with Jones. The second fight being one I thought he won.

      Comment

      • sterling
        P4P Champion
        Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
        • Sep 2007
        • 4845
        • 183
        • 37
        • 16,637

        #133
        Originally posted by TheManchine
        Toney wasn't even 30 when he started losing. Roy Jones is nearly 40. Glen Johnson and Tarver were NOT bums.

        Montell Griffin wasn't a bum either but Thadzi? He was a decent fighter and a title contender but he had no business beating Toney.

        And Roy Jones is still fighting, he is fighting against Tito next week.
        yeh 2 fights in 2 years rofl a very active roy jones haha hes stil fighting yes but hes hardly active at all.
        I even reckon tito might ko jones

        Comment

        • Scott9945
          Gonna be more su****ious
          Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
          • Mar 2007
          • 22032
          • 741
          • 1,371
          • 30,075

          #134
          Originally posted by -Antonio-
          Toney always fight to the level of his competition though, so you cant really use that as an argument.
          You can't say that about Floyd Mayweather, and that's why he is a level higher than Toney. He takes pride in his professionalism and always shows up in top physical and mental shape. That's why you should never hear Toney mentioned on the same plateau as Leonard and Mayweather. He hasn't earned it.

          Comment

          • TheGreatA
            Undisputed Champion
            Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
            • Dec 2007
            • 14143
            • 633
            • 271
            • 21,863

            #135
            Griffin should've retired after the DQ win over Jones. He would be known as one of the greatest of this era.

            Comment

            • MELLY-MEL...
              Broken, Beat, Scarred
              Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
              • Dec 2007
              • 11274
              • 1,059
              • 1,667
              • 33,296

              #136
              toney is an atg for is past accomplishments! sadly now, he is a fat steroid pumpin loser! huge waste of talent.

              Comment

              • GunStar
                Banned
                Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                • Oct 2005
                • 10656
                • 774
                • 2,464
                • 12,344

                #137
                Originally posted by TheManchine
                Toney wasn't even 30 when he started losing. Roy Jones is nearly 40. Glen Johnson and Tarver were NOT bums.

                Montell Griffin wasn't a bum either but Thadzi? He was a decent fighter and a title contender but he had no business beating Toney.

                And Roy Jones is still fighting, he is fighting against Tito next week.
                Toney is 39 and is a little older the Jones, Toney had 80 career fights to Jones 55.

                Thadzi really didn't beat Toney, I had Toney winning the fight.


                Jones is fighting a washed up welterweight in a week.

                Comment

                • Ironside
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 2478
                  • 94
                  • 201
                  • 8,897

                  #138
                  Originally posted by Parody
                  Hell No.

                  Pre-2003 version beats Tarver, lets not forget Jones won in their first fight, and he was coming down from Heavyweight.
                  Yea, but then he lost twice to him. The KO put fear into Jones. IMO Jones was always scared of Tarver. Even though Jones is one of my favorite fighters ever, I would always pick Tarver over him.

                  Comment

                  • GunStar
                    Banned
                    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 10656
                    • 774
                    • 2,464
                    • 12,344

                    #139
                    Originally posted by Parody
                    Hell No.

                    Pre-2003 version beats Tarver, lets not forget Jones won in their first fight, and he was coming down from Heavyweight.
                    Half the press had Tarver winning the first fight too.

                    Comment

                    • TheGreatA
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 14143
                      • 633
                      • 271
                      • 21,863

                      #140
                      Originally posted by GunStar
                      Toney is 39 and is a little older the Jones, Toney had 80 career fights to Jones 55.
                      Yeah? Toney has lots of fights, I don't understand what that has got to do with anything.

                      Thadzi really didn't beat Toney, I had Toney winning the fight.
                      It was still close enough for the judges to consider that he lost. If it was Toney at his best he would've knocked him out. Just like if it had been Roy Jones at his best he would've beaten both Tarver and Johnson.

                      Jones is fighting a washed up welterweight in a week.
                      What I meant was, RJJ hasn't stopped fighting yet. He said RJJ quit, well he hasn't. He is still fighting.
                      Last edited by TheGreatA; 01-12-2008, 09:03 PM.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP