MARQUEZ is a better fighter then BARRERA

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  • Kball15
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    #81
    Originally posted by -Hyperion-
    mmmm. why?????

    i know morales wouldve schoooled naz, but you really think hes gonna go and box him???**** no, morales would've brawled after wearing naz down and ko'd him.....naz barely could take a kelly right hand.....and kevin kelley has a weak chin, morales has an iron chin and most importantly, tremendous pride and will, theres no way a prime morales would get KO'ed.......one chopping right and naz wouldnt get up...
    well firstly Kevin Kelly was a massive puncher for the weight at the time, and secondly, Naz was just so off balance and loose, he had the appearance of a bad chin. He ate some massive shots in his day.

    Not saying he had a great chin, but it was better then it appeared. Morales would have beaten him decisively though

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    • Parody
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      #82
      Originally posted by Kball15
      well firstly Kevin Kelly was a massive puncher for the weight at the time, and secondly, Naz was just so off balance and loose, he had the appearance of a bad chin. He ate some massive shots in his day.

      Not saying he had a great chin, but it was better then it appeared. Morales would have beaten him decisively though
      Its just a fact that whenever Naseem was knocked down (Flash knockdowns mostly where he got up at the count of 3 or 4) he knocked out his opponents in the next 2 or 3 rounds. Most of those were because of his balance.

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      • -Hyperion-
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        #83
        Originally posted by Parody
        Its just a fact that whenever Naseem was knocked down (Flash knockdowns mostly where he got up at the count of 3 or 4) he knocked out his opponents in the next 2 or 3 rounds. Most of those were because of his balance.
        naz is one of my faves, he has great power, and a great chin, but he takes the shots waaaaaaay to clean....rights just got to naz easily and the one kelly caught him with is very similar to the type of rights morales throws.......like i said i dont think naz has enough defense to deal with erik...

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          #84
          Originally posted by Parody
          Morales is a warrior but why need to brawl with a guy like Naseem when you can outbox him? Its called boxing not knockouts like Winky said...and as a fan of Morales I would'nt want him to brawl with a puncher like naseem, Yes nas has been down but he has never been hurt, most of those knockdowns were flash knockdowns and he got up immediately to knockout his opponent in the next round or two after he got knocked down.
          i wouldnt like him to brawl either, but i know he would, and i know he would win............morales also has an anti-southpaw style to top it all...

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          • Parody
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            #85
            Originally posted by -Hyperion-
            naz is one of my faves, he has great power, and a great chin, but he takes the shots waaaaaaay to clean....rights just got to naz easily and the one kelly caught him with is very similar to the type of rights morales throws.......like i said i dont think naz has enough defense to deal with erik...
            I ****ing hate the guy, but you cant brawl with him and win, just admit it. You can take him to school though, which Morales certainly can no doubt.

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            • Castor_Troy
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              #86
              Morales
              BArrera
              Marquez

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              • miron_lang
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                #87
                Originally posted by Kball15

                third of all, almost all the ring side reporters and writers thought that, despite going down 3 times in round 1, Marquez deserved the decision. I completely agree with them, there is no way Marquez lost more then 4 rounds in that fight, and i expect the same in March.
                I dont think thats the case. MOre writers and boxing sites had pac the winner. JMM won more rounds but PAC takes it through proper 10 pt. must system scoring. lets just drop this.


                Maybe you overlooked my post above. just reply to this if you're not interested. 100K pts on PAC againts your JMM. Deal?

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                • miron_lang
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Kball15
                  And Lastly, i think you got that last sentence backwards. MORALES, BARRERA, and Marquez are ALLL better fighters then Pacquiao Prime for Prime.
                  The Pacquiao in the 3rd Morales fight completely destroys all 3. weighing @144lbs with the same speed and activity he had @122. He had less boxing abilities but his SPEED, POWER and STAMINA more than make up for it.



                  EDIT: I just noticed your sig.
                  Last edited by miron_lang; 01-08-2008, 12:50 AM.

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                  • MaYaN_SuN
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                    #89
                    I think so, prime-Marquez was better then both Marco and Eric.

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                    • MaYaN_SuN
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by oldgringo
                      Erik Morales would have slapped Juan Manuel Marquez around at any weight. Dude just wasn't on that level.

                      Very good fighter...but he's no Morales.
                      I dont know about that, but Morales was a beast. He was practically a flawless brawler when he would keep you at the end of his barrages.

                      Originally posted by Kball15
                      IMO, and i mean no disrespect, but Morales may be the most ovverated fighter of the last 10 years.

                      Barrera is a MUCH better fighter, and if it were up to ringside writers, he would have won all three of their fights. He CLEARLY won their first fight...
                      I actually think it's the other way around. But Barrera was better later in his career, but Morales was just as effective if not more then Barrera in his prime. Morales kept people at a distance and smacked people up non stop. Barrera was more like Chavez, liked to stay on the inside.
                      Last edited by MaYaN_SuN; 01-08-2008, 12:35 AM.

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