MARQUEZ is a better fighter then BARRERA

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  • xcaret
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    #61
    People dont know that Marquez has changed his style in recent years just to please the fans, look at his earlier fights, **** i got almost all of his career fights, the guy was a master at counter-punching.. Barrera and Morales had the better career, because they had the opportunity to fight the best opposition, Marquez never had that, but hes got the better skills then both...A prime Marquez vs a prime barrera and morales would've given us an all out war but i feel Marquez would've beaten both of them.

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    • Parody
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      #62
      Let me break it down for you guys

      Marquez > Barrera (Marco was'nt in his prime but lost a competitive fight with JMM, but lets not forget JMM is'nt exactly in his Prime either)
      Morales > Marquez (Prime Morales would have beaten Marquez, NO Doubt about it at all.)
      Morales > Barrera (Despite being 1-2 against Barrera he should have been 2-1, and he managed to beat Pacquiao once in a close fight 7-5 the cut troubled Pacquiao a lot but Morales won the fight, something Barrera and Marquez could'nt do, Marquez is lucky he got the draw the judges ****ed up big time and Pacquiao had the right to be disappointed)

      Pacquiao > Morales, Barrera, Marquez.

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      • Parody
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        #63
        Originally posted by xcaret
        People dont know that Marquez has changed his style in recent years just to please the fans, look at his earlier fights, **** i got almost all of his career fights, the guy was a master at counter-punching.. Barrera and Morales had the better career, because they had the opportunity to fight the best opposition, Marquez never had that, but hes got the better skills then both...A prime Marquez vs a prime barrera and morales would've given us an all out war but i feel Marquez would've beaten both of them.
        Barrera would have beaten Marquez few years back.

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          #64
          Originally posted by xcaret
          People dont know that Marquez has changed his style in recent years just to please the fans, look at his earlier fights, **** i got almost all of his career fights, the guy was a master at counter-punching.. Barrera and Morales had the better career, because they had the opportunity to fight the best opposition, Marquez never had that, but hes got the better skills then both...A prime Marquez vs a prime barrera and morales would've given us an all out war but i feel Marquez would've beaten both of them.
          i agree fully with this post. 100%

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          • Parody
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            #65
            Originally posted by eazy_mas
            http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph...=Fight:1054077

            here the scoring from all the judges as well as boxing expert in the website only one favoured Marquez
            John won that fight, people are crying about it for no reason. Prime Marquez would have beaten him though.

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              #66
              Marquez is a great fighter but Morales and Barrera are both legendary.



              Morales has a better resume than Barrera....Barrera has a better resume than Pac...... Pac has a better resume than Marquez. The last two isn't done with thier careers so they can still do better.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Parody
                Let me break it down for you guys

                Marquez > Barrera (Marco was'nt in his prime but lost a competitive fight with JMM, but lets not forget JMM is'nt exactly in his Prime either)
                Morales > Marquez (Prime Morales would have beaten Marquez, NO Doubt about it at all.)
                Morales > Barrera (Despite being 1-2 against Barrera he should have been 2-1, and he managed to beat Pacquiao once in a close fight 7-5 the cut troubled Pacquiao a lot but Morales won the fight, something Barrera and Marquez could'nt do, Marquez is lucky he got the draw the judges ****ed up big time and Pacquiao had the right to be disappointed)

                Pacquiao > Morales, Barrera, Marquez.
                i dont agree with much that u said here.

                I think there is PLENTY of doubt that Morales could have beaten a prime Marquez. It would have come in virtually dead even in the betting odds, and id probably put my money on Marquez. Fantastic fight though.

                2nd of all, the 2-1 in favor of Barrera in the Morales trilogy was 100% correct. Barrera clearly won the first fight and got jobbed, Morales clearly won the 2nd and got jobbed, and the third was barreras again.

                third of all, almost all the ring side reporters and writers thought that, despite going down 3 times in round 1, Marquez deserved the decision. I completely agree with them, there is no way Marquez lost more then 4 rounds in that fight, and i expect the same in March.

                And Lastly, i think you got that last sentence backwards. MORALES, BARRERA, and Marquez are ALLL better fighters then Pacquiao Prime for Prime.


                Originally posted by Parody
                Barrera would have beaten Marquez few years back.
                There is nothing that happened in that fight that told me if they were both younger, the fight would have been any different. Marquez was pretty clearly the winner

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                • Parody
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by -Hyperion-
                  morales wouldve beat naz more immpressively, because he wouldve brawled with him and KO him, Naz didnt have the defense but Morales did have the chin...

                  irate them like this:

                  1-morales
                  2-marquez
                  3-barrera

                  resume-wise:

                  1-erik and mab
                  2-marquez
                  Lol...Morales is my favourite fighter man and I think he could have given Naz a tough fight/beaten him, I ****ing hate Prince Naseem he is an arrogant ****, but even you know no one brawls with Nas, If Morales brawled with him it would have been his downfall. Tactical boxers would have always beaten Prince Naseem, but I could see one "Brawling" and beating him.

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                  • Kball15
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Parody
                    John won that fight, people are crying about it for no reason. Prime Marquez would have beaten him though.
                    dude, u didnt even see the fight. It was close but he definetly should have won.

                    I believe the scorecards were very lopsided in Johns favor, which makes it a robbery cause there is no way he won by more then a point or 2, and theres really no way he won that fight,

                    People have every reason to complain about that fight, it was very fishy

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                    • Parody
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Kball15
                      i dont agree with much that u said here.

                      I think there is PLENTY of doubt that Morales could have beaten a prime Marquez. It would have come in virtually dead even in the betting odds, and id probably put my money on Marquez. Fantastic fight though.

                      2nd of all, the 2-1 in favor of Barrera in the Morales trilogy was 100% correct. Barrera clearly won the first fight and got jobbed, Morales clearly won the 2nd and got jobbed, and the third was barreras again.

                      third of all, almost all the ring side reporters and writers thought that, despite going down 3 times in round 1, Marquez deserved the decision. I completely agree with them, there is no way Marquez lost more then 4 rounds in that fight, and i expect the same in March.

                      And Lastly, i think you got that last sentence backwards. MORALES, BARRERA, and Marquez are ALLL better fighters then Pacquiao Prime for Prime.




                      There is nothing that happened in that fight that told me if they were both younger, the fight would have been any different. Marquez was pretty clearly the winner
                      lol im pretty sure Morales would have dominated Chris John, and did'nt an Out of prime Morales beat Pacquiao while a Prime Marquez was lucky to get a draw with him?

                      And you could'nt be more wrong, all the ringside scorers, press row scoring, HBO, EVERYONE had Pacquiao winning the fight, The judges really screwed him that night. I watch that fight 1000 times and everytime Pacquiao wins, yes Marquez fought bravely and made it close but it was a clear cut decision for Pacquiao who expressed his disappointment for not getting the decision at the end of the fight.

                      If you mean better fighters as in better skills I agree with you all of them are better skilled, but the better skilled does'nt win everytime, Prime for Prime they are better fighters/better talent but Prime for Prime Pacquiao beats them every time. Watch him beat Marquez now and then I'll do the told ya so.
                      Last edited by Parody; 01-07-2008, 06:33 PM.

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