Wladamir Klitchko runs the gauntlet

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  • TheGreatA
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    #91
    Originally posted by kayjay
    You can't beat Wlad by moving away from him.
    Now why is that? What fights do you base that on? Wladimir has never faced a tall, quick boxer like Ali himself either, except Sanders who knocked him out in two.

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      #92
      Originally posted by THE REAL NINJA
      If he can't catch you after you hit him then you sure can.
      After you hit him? You have to hit him before there's an after you hit him. Not with a jab.

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        #93
        Originally posted by TheManchine
        Now why is that? What fights do you base that on? Wladimir has never faced a tall, quick boxer like Ali himself either, except Sanders who knocked him out in two.
        Ali has nothing in common with Sanders.

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          #94
          Originally posted by kayjay
          After you hit him? You have to hit him before there's an after you hit him. Not with a jab.
          Why not ?

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            #95
            Originally posted by kayjay
            Ali has nothing in common with Sanders.
            Sanders has fast hands and the only real defense he has is going backwards evading punches. He is about the same height as Ali is but has a shorter reach.

            The difference is that Sanders is a southpaw but really, there are similarities.

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              #96
              Originally posted by divad
              Mike Tyson is technically far superior to Williams & Liston as was Holyfield
              Uh, no. Tyson was much faster, but Liston was the better boxer. Unlike Tyson, Liston could sustain his skills longer than five rounds. Sonny outboxed a lot of good fighters in his prime. Tyson was always just seek and destroy.

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                #97
                Originally posted by THE REAL NINJA
                Why not ?
                Ali would get killed trying to jab him.

                Both Frazier and Foreman would fare better against Wlad.

                Ali struggled with all kinds of fighters; let's not pretend he dominated everybody, and he certainly never saw anything like Wlad. Ali is too jab reliant to fight Wlad, Wlad can punch moving forward, and Ali doesn't have the pop needed to deter Wlad.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by kayjay
                  Ali would get killed trying to jab him.

                  Both Frazier and Foreman would fare better against Wlad.

                  Ali struggled with all kinds of fighters; let's not pretend he dominated everybody, and he certainly never saw anything like Wlad. Ali is too jab reliant to fight Wlad, Wlad can punch moving forward, and Ali doesn't have the pop needed to deter Wlad.
                  Foreman would kill Wlad.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by kayjay
                    Ali would get killed trying to jab him.

                    Both Frazier and Foreman would fare better against Wlad.

                    Ali struggled with all kinds of fighters; let's not pretend he dominated everybody, and he certainly never saw anything like Wlad. Ali is too jab reliant to fight Wlad, Wlad can punch moving forward, and Ali doesn't have the pop needed to deter Wlad.
                    The he'd just pot shot to the body and follow to the head like he did with Liston who had a better jab then Wlad.
                    Ali had pop but he was an arm puncher, he gave up power for speed but had it when he wanted to use it.

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                      #100
                      Ali's power is underrated.

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