Hey KSwizzy, I addressed a post to you a few pages back and you ignored it. Maybe I shouldn't bring this up, as your debating style seems to be to mention something irrelevant, and then when proven wrong accuse people of being nuthuggers, but I'd still like to hear your response.
Many people put him in the top 10 heavyweights ever, but his standard of opposition isn't particularly impressive. The same is true of many boxers who are considered ATG.
Ali fought during the best heavyweight era, and Robinson fought some great opponents at welterweight and middleweight. But there are a lot of fighters who didn't do anything on that level. We still consider them great because they looked very good against the best opposition available.
So, do you only rate fighters highly if they have fought great opposition or not? Simple question.
The premise of the original poster of this thread's argument stands. The fact is, Calzaghe hasn't beaten a great fighter. How to you become an established 'great' fighter? You beat other great fighters. You prove yourself. Kessler has beaten a bunch of bums from Europe, he's a methodical and mechanical fighter with no style. His 39 record is almost entirely comprising of CHUMPS. Jeff Lacy is where I give Calzaghe some credit, but he is not great either, horribly one-dimensional (Tsypko beat him).
For the record I do think Joe is...a great fighter. But he has to prove it on Saturday night by beating another great. Something he's never done.
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