Top Boxers Can Beat Top Mma Fighters Without Grappling Training!

[mrpain81]

Yeah Chuck f'd up big time with that body shot and he said himself that it was a ****** thing to do. Even professional boxers make mistakes sometimes, not that Chuck is anywhere even near one. But when Jackson immediately countered that mistake with a huge right hook, that was professional.

I don't agree that Jackson is just a tough guy, I think he is actually pretty good at boxing. Look at his K-1 fight against Cyril Abidi. He has above average stand-up for MMA.

I don't like how UFC pays their fighters more money for exciting fights myself but it is what it is and I can understand it. It's not like a fight can't be exciting AND skilled at the same time.

Fights being stood up is OK in my book but I've seen some really ****** stand-ups like the one in Gonzaga - CroCop. Gonzaga was doing serious damage on the ground. But when he knocked the hell out of CroCop with that high kick everyone forgot about that. I guess it turned out to be a good stand-up.

And the gloves are absolutely needed, it's not like you can't have gloves in a street fight. Hey, if we want to go that way why not just bring guns and weapons inside the ring so we can have a real street fight.

I agree..

I think Bundy was only saying Jackson was tough because he went thru a pretty bad streak, Ko'd by Silva, got the gift with Ninja, then Ko'd by Shogun, then got that close decision over Lindland..

For me, the more fights the better.

I Just get pissed going to Sherdog or other MMA forums and the fans bad mouth boxing so much. Alot of boxers have died, being warriors, then I go over there and they say boxer aren't fighters. WTF

[TheGreatA]

I agree..

I think Bundy was only saying Jackson was tough because he went thru a pretty bad streak, Ko'd by Silva, got the gift with Ninja, then Ko'd by Shogun, then got that close decision over Lindland..

For me, the more fights the better.

I Just get pissed going to Sherdog or other MMA forums and the fans bad mouth boxing so much. Alot of boxers have died, being warriors, then I go over there and they say boxer aren't fighters. WTF

Yeah there are some ****** idiots among MMA fans. I doubt those people even like MMA they just like the violence. It's weird to me because UFC isn't even really that violent, some boxing matches are FAR more brutal.

The only good thing about Sherdog is the boxing forum atleast there are some people who are knowledgeable about both sports.

People don't necessarily need to like boxing or MMA but they should at the very least respect both arts.

[dino]

I'm quite sure many of the MMA fighters have enough athletic ability to compete in boxing had they started boxing instead of wrestling/sambo/BJJ at a young age. But it's not completely out of the question for a former MMA fighter to become successful in boxing even at a late age.

Remember Matt Skelton was a kickboxer who tried his hand at MMA and failed. He then became a professional boxer at the age of 35, became the british heavyweight champion and has now a scheduled world title match against Chagaev.

I agree a big, tall guy like Wlad does have a puncher's chance even in MMA but against a fighter like Fedor it's not much of a chance. Fedor has fought kickboxing champion Semmy Schilt and CroCop and took both down with relative ease and avoided their punches & kicks. Fedor has great reflexes and capitalizes on every mistake.

Fedor has a MMA match against a guy named Hong Man Choi who is very big (7'2'' 350 lbs) and punches very hard and has zero ground game so we will see this theory put to test.

Also mr. dino the reason little Pulver could outbox Penn (he lost the rematch though) in their first fight was because Pulver has, you know, wrestling ability, something David Tua and other boxers don't have. He could keep the fight on his feet because he could defend Penn's takedowns. But now that Penn has improved he had no problem taking down Pulver and submitting him.

I almost threw up in my mouth when you said MATT SKELTON and BRITISH CHAMPIONSHIP, like thats a big time accoplishment.

HONG MAN CHOI is huge and can't move, he doesn't count

[flat1985]

LOL! More drunken ramblings from the forum's fattest, most ignorant ******, Dino.

LOL!!!!!!

[Peterp]

There's lots of ignorant ****** posts in MMA forums about boxing

sadly, you have proven that there are also ignorant ****** posts about MMA in boxing forums

[C'MONMANG']

most MMA fighters 95+ percent, are just very strong guys who know judo or former high school wrestlers ala Matt Hughes, these guys would get destroyed by top boxers.

If you don't think Wlad Klitchko would brutalize Tim Slyvia or Fedor Emirlenko then your a fool! Most MMA matches end up looking like dry sex, with a guy either mounted on top trying to do a arm hold, or a guy having a guy in the missionary position trying to choke him.



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and you are VERY ignorant

[dino]

look at this fight, 2 of the supposed top fighters in MMA, look at how awful this bar room brawl looks!

http://www.livevideo.com/video/07603441497345EA976BE806B462E5F4/ufc-chuck-liddell-vs-randy-cou.aspx

[TheGreatA]

This is supposed to be a top HW boxing contest, look at how awful this barroom brawl looks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpdeONftgaA

What about this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpdeONftgaA

HAHA you call these guys professionals? This HW champ lost to a friggin bum HAHAHAHA

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[mrpain81]

There's lots of ignorant ****** posts in MMA forums about boxing

sadly, you have proven that there are also ignorant ****** posts about MMA in boxing forums

Why dont you educate us.

[eazy_mas]

Wlad also have experince in kickboxing so he got a hell lot of chance aganist Fedora