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  • TheGreatA
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    #91
    I would say Sherk (steroids), Arlovski (glass jaw), Rampage, Couture (old), Franklin, Koscheck and Sokoudjou (new) are quite good athletes too. Also there are other very good athletes in MMA outside the UFC. I don't think it's the lack of athletes it's the lack of image, people can't take the cage seriously and there are guys like Chris Leben and Tim Sylvia running around.

    But don't forget we have guys like giant Valuev, Baldomir, old Toney and Ponce DeLeon (windmill) in boxing. There were many more tough guys in boxing in the past eras too who weren't very athletic but worked hard and knew boxing.

    Overall the athletic advantage obviously goes to boxing of course, MMA is a much newer sport and fighters don't make as much money as boxers.

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    • Smokin'
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      #92
      Originally posted by TheManchine
      I would say Sherk (steroids), Arlovski (glass jaw), Rampage, Couture (old), Franklin, Koscheck and Sokoudjou (new) are quite good athletes too. Also there are other very good athletes in MMA outside the UFC. I don't think it's the lack of athletes it's the lack of image, people can't take the cage seriously and there are guys like Chris Leben and Tim Sylvia running around.

      But don't forget we have guys like giant Valuev, Baldomir, old Toney and Ponce DeLeon (windmill) in boxing. There were many more tough guys in boxing in the past eras too who weren't very athletic but worked hard and knew boxing.

      Overall the athletic advantage obviously goes to boxing of course, MMA is a much newer sport and fighters don't make as much money as boxers.
      Sherk is a sick athlete and Sokou is a decent one too (I wouldn't call him great though)...Arlovski is a good athlete, although nothing special.

      Dana should stop trying to promote the sport as a bloodbath and more of an actual sport/science. He also gives his buddies (Franklin, Liddell) way too many chances even when they get knocked the **** out repeatedly.

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      • tills9191
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        #93
        Originally posted by lillb
        ^^ mma is not boring dum *** its more exciting then ***in boxing ok
        yes it is more boring ******.
        Most times they're on top of each other doing fck all!

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        • mrpain81
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          #94
          I dont like the cage, they hate when people call the sport "Human ****fighting" Yet before every UFC they have that gladiator guy with that music I dont like. They treat it more WWE then anything, they need to get real commentators.

          But its worked for them, watever works I guess.

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          • TheGreatA
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            #95
            Originally posted by Smokin'
            Dana should stop trying to promote the sport as a bloodbath and more of an actual sport/science. He also gives his buddies (Franklin, Liddell) way too many chances even when they get knocked the **** out repeatedly.
            Agreed. They have tried to make it look more like a sport but the overall athmosphere of their shows is still kind of amateurish with all the nu-metal and the subpar commentators.

            I think the chances he gave to both Liddell and Franklin could've actually killed their MMA careers, now Franklin has lost badly twice to Silva and has no place in the division. Liddell also lost to Jardine of all people and now gets another dangerous fight against Silva. Another brutal KO would seriously end his career and probably damage his health.

            Both Liddell and Franklin should've taken some time off.

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            • deevel79
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              #96
              I would love to see Floyd try and get in the ring with someone like George St. Pierre. George would literally kill Floyd. Never mind if it were in a boxing match, or an mma match. These 2 bump heads in the street, and something goes down, George would **** Floyd.

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              • TheGreatA
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                #97
                Unless GSP gets caught like did against Serra. There's always the punchers chance.

                But realistically the reason the fight against Serra didn't hit the ground was because GSP respected Serra's BJJ and wanted to outstrike him and got caught with a good one. Against any boxer/striker he would take the fight immediately to the ground. Especially after the Serra experience.

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                • mrpain81
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                  #98
                  Yes in a MMA match GSP would Kill Floyd, not even considering GSP fights 23 pounds over 147.

                  In the streets, Floyds bodyguards would probably Kill GSP.

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                  • TheGreatA
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by mrpain81
                    In the streets, Floyds bodyguards would probably Kill GSP.
                    Floyd, Roger, Leonard & that failed boxer dude vs GSP.

                    Lets see. Floyd gets in GSP's face and runs his mouth about money and prison and bitches. GSP gets pissed off and takes Floyd down and starts hitting him on the ground.
                    Roger & failed boxer dude try to shake him off but GSP kicks them both in the nutsack and they fall down in pain. Floyd gets up and starts wailing at GSP. GSP tries another takedown but Leonard hits him with a beer bottle to the back of the head and stabs him twice. Game over for GSP.

                    Floyd Mayweather wins the boxing, MMA & street fight trilogy against GSP 2-1.

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                    • El Chicano
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                      #100
                      MMA is dominant to Boxing in terms of pure fighting. Therefore, an MMA practitioner would beat the **** out of a pure boxer with no other discipline. Klitschko would get the **** beat out of him by Randy, Silvia or any of the top HW MMA fighters.

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