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  • mrpain81
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    #41
    Originally posted by TheManchine
    Fedor has a MMA match against a guy named Hong Man Choi who is very big (7'2'' 350 lbs) and punches very hard and has zero ground game so we will see this theory put to test.
    Hong Man Choi isnt accomplished like Wlad, Plus I said Wlad could win 20% of the time. Thats a big "IF" but we havent seen anybody with real world class hands in MMA. Probably Aleks Emelianenko and Vitor, who had a great amature boxing background are the best.

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      #42
      Originally posted by TheManchine
      I agree the skill level OVERALL in boxing is better than MMA but there are some very skilled individuals in MMA.

      MMA is still a young sport and all the money that could be in it isn't in it just yet.
      Maybe someday we will see top boxers fight in MMA in hopes for a big payday.
      But if someone actually thinks that a boxer can come to MMA without any grappling training whatsoever and beat all the champions, that's just ignorant.
      Yup very....Different sports


      MMA = Advantage Mixed Martial Artist

      Boxing = Advantage Boxer

      Kickboxing = Advantage Kickboxer

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      • TheGreatA
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        #43
        Originally posted by mrpain81
        Hong Man Choi isnt accomplished like Wlad, Plus I said Wlad could win 20% of the time. Thats a big "IF" but we havent seen anybody with real world class hands in MMA. Probably Aleks Emelianenko and Vitor, who had a great amature boxing background are the best.
        I know he isn't but it's like a lesser version of Wlad vs Fedor where a big guy with a punch fights a skilled MMA fighter. But Hong Man Choi's boxing skills are awful especially compared to Wlad and he isn't nearly as fast either (a lot bigger though). But it's a fight where the other man basically only has a puncher's chance (in Hong Man's case probably something like a 0,000000000000001%).

        The best hands in MMA would belong to CroCop and Semmy Schilt who were both successful kickboxers, but CroCop sadly stopped using his hands after he fell in love with his left high kick. His striking skills have diminished greatly as he has become a more complete MMA fighter.

        Now Aleksander might as well have the best hands, he is fast and powerful, the boxing display he put on Ricardo Morais was quite a thing to watch.
        The guy he beat Sergei Kharitonov is no slouch as a boxer either. Many Russian MMA fighters have good hands.
        Last edited by TheGreatA; 12-25-2007, 05:22 PM.

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          #44
          Originally posted by TheManchine
          I know he isn't but it's like a lesser version of Wlad vs Fedor where a big guy with a punch fights a skilled MMA fighter. But Hong Man Choi's boxing skills are awful especially compared to Wlad and he isn't nearly as fast either (a lot bigger though). But it's a fight where the other man basically only has a puncher's chance.

          The best hands in MMA would belong to CroCop and Semmy Schilt who were both successful kickboxers, but CroCop sadly stopped using his hands after he fell in love with his left high kick. His striking skills have diminished greatly as he has become a more complete MMA fighter.

          Now Aleksander might as well have the best hands, he is fast and powerful, the boxing display he put on Ricardo Morais was quite a thing to watch.
          The guy he beat Sergei Kharitonov is no slouch as a boxer either. Many Russian MMA fighters have good hands.
          I never thought CroCops hands were that great, his kicks were the best though, When Aleks took out Morais was a thing of beauty. Morias was so big and slow Aleks thought he was Ali in there, and Aleks vs Kharitonov was a great great fight, on a great card.

          You know who I thought could really make it in boxing?

          Michael McDonald

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          • the giant one
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            #45
            Originally posted by dino
            All you have to do is take a few JUDO lessons or Brazilian Ju JITSU classes, be somewhat strong, and you can get a few MMA victories under your belt.
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            goddamn you're a good troll fatty

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            • RightHandLead
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              #46
              Wlad's biggest problem in boxing is his weak legs. He constantly falls off balance from punches and his legs fail him quite often. So just imagiine how he would fare in a sport where the legs are 10 times more improtant for hitting.

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                #47
                I think Vitali, who was a kickboxer for a number of years would do better in MMA than Wlad.

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                  #48
                  yo mr pain is Michael McDonald still in mma if he is he should fight Melvin Manhoef whata ***in super fight that would b.

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                  • TheGreatA
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by mrpain81
                    I never thought CroCops hands were that great, his kicks were the best though, When Aleks took out Morais was a thing of beauty. Morias was so big and slow Aleks thought he was Ali in there, and Aleks vs Kharitonov was a great great fight, on a great card.

                    You know who I thought could really make it in boxing?

                    Michael McDonald
                    Watch CroCop's MMA fights against an inexperienced Aleks and a bloated Wanderlei Silva or his kickboxing match against Remy Bonjasky. He shows good hands in those fights (not world class though). CroCop also has an amateur boxing record of 40-5 (31 KO's). But yes he is more known for his kicks and for a good reason, his kicks are awesome.

                    And about McDonald, he did destroy Mirko and he primarily used his hands to do it. I think he would've been a better boxer than a kickboxer/MMA fighter.
                    Last edited by TheGreatA; 12-25-2007, 05:38 PM.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by gavinz1970
                      I think Vitali, who was a kickboxer for a number of years would do better in MMA than Wlad.
                      Vitali is the toughman of the two brothers. He had the meddle while Wlad has more of the natural talent. Vitali would definitely do better.

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