Ricky Hatton Is Not A Great He Is Just Average

[Tony628]

Go.... name 'em.

ricky hatton

[squealpiggy]

Is Floyd Mayweather a legit WW?

With wins over Carlos Baldomir and Oscar De La Hoya Floyd Mayweather has shown that the size difference at Welterweight is not a barrier to him being successful at the weight. So I would say that Mayweather is a legit welterweight, yes.

[hulme#1]

ricky hatton

Only vertically. And he's about to move back down. Point proven?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

It depends how you define very good. Even if not in a pure boxing sense, the hustle that Ricky brought out of Floyd has to count for something in light of all the advantages Mayweather has. Yes, Floyd dealt with him capably, and anybody smart knew that Ricky's style could very well see him lunging face first into a crushing stoppage. But he forced Floyd to dig in, and it wasn't anything like the Gatti-esque disfiguration you predicted.

With a pause for fair consideration, I have to agree that he isn't great.

Did you actually read my prediction, or are you relying on the exaggerations of others?

I predicted that Ricky would take about three of the first six rounds. Which his fans say that he did, even if the objective judges disagreed. I said that the fight would become Gatti-esque around 9/10. Which it did.

Round 8 could have legitimately been scored a 10-8 round.

REPUBLICA DEPORTIVA IS ON!!

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

ricky hatton

Translation: Damn, Dios. I can't name a welterweight smaller than Floyd.

and, oh....Vivian Harris.

[hulme#1]

Yep, Dios, I read your posts, and those of many others.

Which it did.

I disagree.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

With wins over Carlos Baldomir and Oscar De La Hoya Floyd Mayweather has shown that the size difference at Welterweight is not a barrier to him being successful at the weight. So I would say that Mayweather is a legit welterweight, yes.

You are using a different argument.

Leonard beating LaLonde or Jones beating Ruiz didn't mean that they were legitimate LHW's or HW's, It only means that they are great fighters whose skills transcend weight classes.

The reality is that Floyd is a LW/JWW who CAN fight at WW. But he is not a "legit WW". As evidenced by the fact that you can't name a single smaller WW.

[squealpiggy]

You are using a different argument.

Leonard beating LaLonde or Jones beating Ruiz didn't mean that they were legitimate LHW's or HW's, It only means that they are great fighters whose skills transcend weight classes.

The reality is that Floyd is a LW/JWW who CAN fight at WW. But he is not a "legit WW". As evidenced by the fact that you can't name a single smaller WW.

I didn't even try and name a smaller welterweight. I don't think it's important to name a smaller welterweight, Floyd is the linear Welterweight champion, and is ranked at the very top of the Welterweight division by just about everyone. I don't know how much more legitimate you can be at a particular weight than the number one ranked fighter.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

Yep, Dios, I read your posts, and those of many others.


I disagree.

Then you overstated my prediction of you read it. Gatti was a bell-to-bell white wash. I did not predict that. I said that late in "Undefeated", it would become sixth-round-of-gatti-esque. The end of the 8th was brutal for hatton and had the doctor and ref checking on him. He went down twice in the 10th and his corner threw in the towel.

Round 9 punchstats:

Hatton: 4/44
Mayweather 15/31


Round 10:

Hatton: 2/16
Mayweather: Um, does it matter?

How is that not Gatti-esque at the end? Hatton was just TAKING punches and landing nothing. Let's not rewrite history on what actually happened.

[machotime]

You are using a different argument.

Leonard beating LaLonde or Jones beating Ruiz didn't mean that they were legitimate LHW's or HW's, It only means that they are great fighters whose skills transcend weight classes.

The reality is that Floyd is a LW/JWW who CAN fight at WW. But he is not a "legit WW". As evidenced by the fact that you can't name a single smaller WW.

There is a difference between skill transcending into a different weight class and the body's ability to adapt to a higher weight class... Hatton's body does not and did not function at 147. How difficult is that to understand??