Ricky Hatton Is Not A Great He Is Just Average

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  • Breakbeat
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    #41
    He is average.......fought average boxers all the way till PBF

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    • squealpiggy
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      #42
      I'm thinking that there are a large number of people who failed mathematics. "Average" does not mean "Near the top".

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        #43
        When has he fought anyone near the top?........maybe you mean over the hill......on the descent down?

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        • *2TOUGH*
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          #44
          Originally posted by msagrain
          ATG my arse more like british tv and paper hype.
          you sound like an angry son of a ***** WHORE that had bets on Hatton to win and now that he lost you jump the bandwagon.

          YOU FOOKIN CHAV SCUM

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          • warp1432
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            #45
            Originally posted by squealpiggy
            Witter has the WBC title that Mayweather vacated after beating Gatti. Rees has the WBA title that Hatton vacated to fight Collazo and Malignaggi has the IBF title that Hatton vacated to fight Castillo. Ricardo Torres has the belt that Cotto vacated to move up to Welter.

            Kostya Tszyu held the WBC, WBA and IBF belts concurrently after beating Zab Judah and Sharmba Mitchell (after picking up a vacant WBC belt). He was stripped by the WBC and WBA for political reasons (apparently the WBC frowns upon fighters taking time off unless their name is Floyd Mayweather or Vitali Klitschko, then it's probably OK) but still held the IBF belt and was unbeaten before he faced Hatton therefore Hatton is the linear champ.

            It's hard to be "undisputed" as in holding all or most of the big four belts, because the rankings vary so much between the different sanctioning bodies. One body's champion is not another's mandatory, hence Hatton gets stripped of the IBF belt for fighting Castillo instead of fighting N'Dou.
            Question in general: Then if Hatton is the undisputed world champion then why wasn't Baldomir recongized at welterweight or Floyd. People give crap to him for going after a bum like baldomir, but yet he was the undisputed welterweight champion of the world. He had 4 of the 5 major belts, but lost 2 of them do to the ABC crap rules

            If people are going to say Hatton is the undisputed champ then they have to say Floyd is to and give him credit for beating Baldomir.


            On topic:

            I think Hatton is really good. Not great, but a Zab Judah so to say. Nothing all time great, just really good. Not Average though. I consider Average just to be normal, nothing special. Average doesn't beat Kostya Tszyu, even if Tszyu was past his prime.

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            • sparked_85
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              #46
              Originally posted by squealpiggy
              I'm thinking that there are a large number of people who failed mathematics. "Average" does not mean "Near the top".
              yeah!

              Average fighters don't win World titles! they especially don't unify world titles.

              Ricky Hatton is a world class light welter weight possibly the best, he is also a top 10 welterweight. AVERAGE???

              All in all he is very good. People are such wankers.

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              • squealpiggy
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                #47
                When has he fought anyone near the top?
                Like it or not Kostya Tszyu was at the top at 140 lbs and almost at the top of the p4p rankings when Hatton beat him. That's what the top is.

                Question in general: Then if Hatton is the undisputed world champion then why wasn't Baldomir recongized at welterweight or Floyd. People give crap to him for going after a bum like baldomir, but yet he was the undisputed welterweight champion of the world. He had 4 of the 5 major belts, but lost 2 of them do to the ABC crap rules
                Baldomir was the undisputed linear champion. He was the man at 147 lbs and now Floyd is because Floyd beat him. Baldomir was never the best at Welterweight but he did hold the aces because he beat the man with the belts (Zab Judah).

                I always credited Floyd with taking the Baldomir fight over the Margarito fight because Baldomir was the true champion, but Baldomir was certainly not the best champion in history (nor was he the worst, at least he had a successful defense against Gatti before he was defeated, boxing is littered with champions who were merely keeping the belt warm before their first challenger relinquished them of it).

                Hatton has defended his linear title three times, against Maussa, Urango and Castillo, and if he goes on to fight Witter, Malignaggi, Rees or Torres he will go in as a challenger only on a technicality. In reality it's the linear championship he'll be defending.

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                • dansapien
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                  #48
                  sometimes i just cant work out whether people start threads on this forum because they THINK they are well informed, or because they just want a bull**** reaction.

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                  • msagrain
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by sparked_85
                    yeah!

                    Average fighters don't win World titles! they especially don't unify world titles.

                    Ricky Hatton is a world class light welter weight possibly the best, he is also a top 10 welterweight. AVERAGE???

                    All in all he is very good. People are such wankers.
                    i mean average in terms of all lww throught out the past.....

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                    • Tuggers1986
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by msagrain
                      Hatton is a good average world class fighter but we will not be remember as an ATG because he has simply not fort anyone with there still class intact and won. The only Fighter who was good who he fort was Mayweather which we all know made Ricky look below average but that what Mayweather does to average world class fighters.

                      The career of Ricky Hatton

                      Starts of pro career fighting Colin McAuley with a record of 8-48-3. Ok we all have to start of somewhere.

                      Hatton moves up the rank to win the vacant BBBofC Central Area light welterweight title agent Tommy Pea****. He later wins the WBO Inter-Continental light welterweight title and WBO

                      Against Jonathan Thaxton for the vacant BBBofC British light welterweight title which hatton struggled to win.


                      Then for Hatton’s chance agent Tony Pep vacant WBU light welterweight title which Hatton won by TKO. You can’t have Tony Pep as a good fighter. Yes he won big title but he was passed it when he fort Hatton. Ricky later goes on the defend his WBU world title successfully.


                      On Ray Oliveira. OK Ray was a very experienced fighter who fort some good fighters in his day but not even winning them for the world title. So he had to go with the WBU world title, which is **** and we all know that. So this also is a very poor win for Ricky isn’t it? When he should have been fighting much better opponents.

                      Hatton big win against Kostya Tszyu for the IBF light welterweight title which no one expects Ricky to win but he just happened to prevail.Then goes on to win the IBF light welterweight title and WBA light welterweight title agents a not to good fighter Carlos Maussa

                      Juan Urango is a good fight but his record is only 17-0-1. OK I agree with fighting some with a small record but Urango should not have stepped up to someone to the likes of Hatton who was way more experienced. This was an average win for Hatton.


                      Yes, he fort Jose Luis Castillo but he was way passed his prime. What do you think would have happened if Hatton had fort a prime Jose Luis Castillo? Ricky would have gotten dismantled. Fact! Winning another vacant title, the vacant WBC International light welterweight title which doesn’t mean anything because he never bet the champion himself.

                      Suffers his first defeat agent Floyd Mayweather JR.

                      The conclusion

                      Hatton managed to win a load of vacant titles against average opponents sometimes agents below average and when he did get into the ring against a good world class fighter against Mayweather he couldn’t handle it he let the pressure get to him. Good fighter handles the pressure and fight the best there is to fight! So Hatton has managed to become a bit of a hype job but don’t get me wrong Hatton is a good fighter but not that good.



                      Now what Hatton needs to go and fight the best and prove he’s is good and he can start by fight Witter.
                      I personally think you have copied this and retyped some words so they're spelt wrong so it looks authentic. I just cant see you coming out with some of these things.

                      But none the less.

                      Good post
                      Last edited by Tuggers1986; 12-23-2007, 06:38 AM.

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