Ricky Hatton Is Not A Great He Is Just Average

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I didn't even try and name a smaller welterweight. I don't think it's important to name a smaller welterweight, Floyd is the linear Welterweight champion, and is ranked at the very top of the Welterweight division by just about everyone. I don't know how much more legitimate you can be at a particular weight than the number one ranked fighter.

We are using "legit welter" in relation to his size. Now you are using it in relation to his quality/ability as a fighter or his ranking.

It would be EVERY BIT as legitimate for Floyd to decide to fight in the future at 140 as it is for Shane to fight at WW or Hatton to fight at JWW. Can we agree on that?

[hulme#1]

How is that not Gatti-esque at the end? Hatton was just TAKING punches and landing nothing. Let's not rewrite history on what actually happened.

I'll clarify.
Even though I feel Floyd won all but 2 rounds of the fight (being generous to Hatton), there was never a stage - until literally the final 30 seconds - when Ricky was anything like as seemingly hapless and unable to protect himself as Gatti was against Floyd.
Yes, Floyd hit Ricky a great deal, almost at will as the fight progressed (ok, so there's some kind of Gatti parallel there). But Ricky was still actively attempting to get in the fight and was comparatively unmarked - Floyd wasn't able to unload on an unmoving target until all the target could do to show his worth was just stand there and get his face battered in.

The Gatti talk, however you spin it, always seemed (and still seems) like polemic, only there to make Ricky look like ****. It isn't even necessary. You're better than that, and have more of worth to say.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

There is a difference between skill transcending into a different weight class and the body's ability to adapt to a higher weight class... Hatton's body does not and did not function at 147. How difficult is that to understand??

Hatton's STYLE does not function at 147 because he can't bully guys his own size. And his style is predicated on imposing his physicality upon you.

Hatton is as tall as Pernell was. As definitely thicker-built. Yet, Pea was able to look better at WW than Ricky because his style allowed him to.

[Lucky13]

Hatton is a good average world class fighter but we will not be remember as an ATG because he has simply not fort anyone with there still class intact and won. The only Fighter who was good who he fort was Mayweather which we all know made Ricky look below average but that what Mayweather does to average world class fighters.

The career of Ricky Hatton

Starts of pro career fighting Colin McAuley with a record of 8-48-3. Ok we all have to start of somewhere.

Hatton moves up the rank to win the vacant BBBofC Central Area light welterweight title agent Tommy Pea****. He later wins the WBO Inter-Continental light welterweight title and WBO

Against Jonathan Thaxton for the vacant BBBofC British light welterweight title which hatton struggled to win.


Then for Hatton’s chance agent Tony Pep vacant WBU light welterweight title which Hatton won by TKO. You can’t have Tony Pep as a good fighter. Yes he won big title but he was passed it when he fort Hatton. Ricky later goes on the defend his WBU world title successfully.


On Ray Oliveira. OK Ray was a very experienced fighter who fort some good fighters in his day but not even winning them for the world title. So he had to go with the WBU world title, which is **** and we all know that. So this also is a very poor win for Ricky isn’t it? When he should have been fighting much better opponents.

Hatton big win against Kostya Tszyu for the IBF light welterweight title which no one expects Ricky to win but he just happened to prevail.Then goes on to win the IBF light welterweight title and WBA light welterweight title agents a not to good fighter Carlos Maussa

Juan Urango is a good fight but his record is only 17-0-1. OK I agree with fighting some with a small record but Urango should not have stepped up to someone to the likes of Hatton who was way more experienced. This was an average win for Hatton.


Yes, he fort Jose Luis Castillo but he was way passed his prime. What do you think would have happened if Hatton had fort a prime Jose Luis Castillo? Ricky would have gotten dismantled. Fact! Winning another vacant title, the vacant WBC International light welterweight title which doesn’t mean anything because he never bet the champion himself.

Suffers his first defeat agent Floyd Mayweather JR.

The conclusion

Hatton managed to win a load of vacant titles against average opponents sometimes agents below average and when he did get into the ring against a good world class fighter against Mayweather he couldn’t handle it he let the pressure get to him. Good fighter handles the pressure and fight the best there is to fight! So Hatton has managed to become a bit of a hype job but don’t get me wrong Hatton is a good fighter but not that good.



Now what Hatton needs to go and fight the best and prove he’s is good and he can start by fight Witter.

Im not gona read this garbage only because of the title of your thread.

[machotime]

We are using "legit welter" in relation to his size. Now you are using it in relation to his quality/ability as a fighter or his ranking.

It would be EVERY BIT as legitimate for Floyd to decide to fight in the future at 140 as it is for Shane to fight at WW or Hatton to fight at JWW. Can we agree on that?

Im sure PBF will never fight at 140 again... He has easily adapted to 147, just as Miguel Cotto, a SIGNIFICANT WW unlike the unranked WW Hatton.

Why did PBF fight Hatton at 147 again? oh thats right, because he saw how fail-prone Hatton was at that weight.

The ONLY semi-significant WW that PBF has faced is DLH, but then again DLH himself has not had a significant win in over 4 years.

[C'MONMANG']

Hatton is a good average world class fighter but we will not be remember as an ATG because he has simply not fort anyone with there still class intact and won. The only Fighter who was good who he fort was Mayweather which we all know made Ricky look below average but that what Mayweather does to average world class fighters.

The career of Ricky Hatton

Starts of pro career fighting Colin McAuley with a record of 8-48-3. Ok we all have to start of somewhere.

Hatton moves up the rank to win the vacant BBBofC Central Area light welterweight title agent Tommy Pea****. He later wins the WBO Inter-Continental light welterweight title and WBO

Against Jonathan Thaxton for the vacant BBBofC British light welterweight title which hatton struggled to win.


Then for Hatton’s chance agent Tony Pep vacant WBU light welterweight title which Hatton won by TKO. You can’t have Tony Pep as a good fighter. Yes he won big title but he was passed it when he fort Hatton. Ricky later goes on the defend his WBU world title successfully.


On Ray Oliveira. OK Ray was a very experienced fighter who fort some good fighters in his day but not even winning them for the world title. So he had to go with the WBU world title, which is **** and we all know that. So this also is a very poor win for Ricky isn’t it? When he should have been fighting much better opponents.

Hatton big win against Kostya Tszyu for the IBF light welterweight title which no one expects Ricky to win but he just happened to prevail.Then goes on to win the IBF light welterweight title and WBA light welterweight title agents a not to good fighter Carlos Maussa

Juan Urango is a good fight but his record is only 17-0-1. OK I agree with fighting some with a small record but Urango should not have stepped up to someone to the likes of Hatton who was way more experienced. This was an average win for Hatton.


Yes, he fort Jose Luis Castillo but he was way passed his prime. What do you think would have happened if Hatton had fort a prime Jose Luis Castillo? Ricky would have gotten dismantled. Fact! Winning another vacant title, the vacant WBC International light welterweight title which doesn’t mean anything because he never bet the champion himself.

Suffers his first defeat agent Floyd Mayweather JR.

The conclusion

Hatton managed to win a load of vacant titles against average opponents sometimes agents below average and when he did get into the ring against a good world class fighter against Mayweather he couldn’t handle it he let the pressure get to him. Good fighter handles the pressure and fight the best there is to fight! So Hatton has managed to become a bit of a hype job but don’t get me wrong Hatton is a good fighter but not that good.



Now what Hatton needs to go and fight the best and prove he’s is good and he can start by fight Witter.

which doesnt say much about Floyds last win. great. thanks 4 that

[hulme#1]

Hatton's STYLE does not function at 147 because he can't bully guys his own size. And his style is predicated on imposing his physicality upon you.

This, I agree with 1000%.

He was banking on being stronger than Mayweather - which was, in a nutshell, the entire premise behind the Hatton-camp's belief that Ricky could beat Floyd.

[machotime]

Hatton's STYLE does not function at 147 because he can't bully guys his own size. And his style is predicated on imposing his physicality upon you.

Hatton is as tall as Pernell was. As definitely thicker-built. Yet, Pea was able to look better at WW than Ricky because his style allowed him to.

His lack of ability at WW is what prohibited his style from functioning you dumb-ass.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

I'll clarify.
Even though I feel Floyd won all but 2 rounds of the fight (being generous to Hatton), there was never a stage - until literally the final 30 seconds - when Ricky was anything like as seemingly hapless and unable to protect himself as Gatti was against Floyd.
Yes, Floyd hit Ricky a great deal, almost at will as the fight progressed (ok, so there's some kind of Gatti parallel there). But Ricky was still actively attempting to get in the fight and was comparatively unmarked - Floyd wasn't able to unload on an unmoving target until all the target could do to show his worth was just stand there and get his face battered in.

The Gatti talk, however you spin it, always seemed (and still seems) like polemic, only there to make Ricky look like ****. It isn't even necessary. You're better than that, and have more of worth to say.

Without question, there is a component of my rhetoric which is intended to tweak the Hattonettes.

This may pre-date your (welcome) arrival on the board, but there was a level of hyperbole around Hatton which was un-freakin;-believable.

Ricky broke four of Castillo's ribs!
Ricky scored three zillion psi on the punch-o-meter!
Ricky will cut off the ring and KO Floyd inside of five!
Ricky will walk right through Floyd's best punches!

Even guys who seemed reasonably astute about the sport (Easton, RIP) were dead-certain of an early hatton KO.

WTF.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

His lack of ability at WW is what prohibited his style from functioning you dumb-ass.

Macho.

Just when I think we are getting to the point of having a serious boxing discussion, you bust out the juvenile name-calling.

Sigh.