where is floyd rank all time p4p in your opinion?

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

How in the world would that make him top 10?

Robinson, Greb, Armstrong, Langford, Ali, Duran, Leonard, Ross, Walker, Whitaker, Pep, Leonard, Louis, etc etc.

Which of those would he outrank?

Again: Tell me (WITHOUT LOOKING) who Harry Greb beat.

That's the problem. Guys created a top p4p list 50 years ago, and it's almost as if we are not allowed to move those guys off the top of that list.

The reality is that Tim Duncan is MUCH better than Bill Russell. Similarly, it would not surprise me if FMJ beat the snot out of Sandy Saddler or Willie Pep.

[Sweet Pete]

]Again: Tell me (WITHOUT LOOKING) who Harry Greb beat.

Why? Why am I not allowed to look? Does that change the fact that it's the truth, regardless if someone has memorized it all or not? I have by the way, I have his resume written down.

That's the problem. Guys created a top p4p list 50 years ago, and it's almost as if we are not allowed to move those guys off the top of that list.

It won't change if the fighters don't surpass their accomplishments. Whitaker had his last fight in 2001 by the way, hardly 50 years ago.

The reality is that Tim Duncan is MUCH better than Bill Russell. Similarly, it would not surprise me if FMJ beat the snot out of Sandy Saddler or Willie Pep.

Boxing is a totally different sport than Basketball, don't compare the two.

Mayweather in my opinion does beat those two(he is also bigger), though his career does not surpass the career of either of them.

[Sweet Pete]

As for Greb's resume, tell me, how do Floyd's best wins compare?

Delaney x3
Rosenbloom
Walker
Wilson x3
Tunney x2
Loughran x5
Slattery
Flowers
Moody
Downey
Bogash
Gibbons x3
Smith x7
Norfolk
Gunboat Smith x2
McTigue x2
Levinsky x6
M. Gibbons
Meehan x2
Houck x3
Miske x3
Bartfield x4
McGoorty
McCoy x2
Dillon x2
O’Dowd
Chip x2
Crouse
Brennan x3
Clark
Blackburn

[AntonTheMeh]

^^^^^^^^^^
i think him whipping dempsey's ass in sparring should count
it made his promoters not want the mauler fight him,and the mauler is wanna my faves

[Sweet Pete]

^^^^^^^^^^
i think him whipping dempsey's ass in sparring should count
it made his promoters not want the mauler fight him,and the mauler is wanna my faves

That as well. Coming from a natural MW as well. Actual fight footage is the only thing keeping him behind Robinson on my list. I heard it is out there as well, the Walker fight and even one with Tunney, but the anonymous guy won't give it up. What a bastard!

[AntonTheMeh]

That as well. Coming from a natural MW as well. Actual fight footage is the only thing keeping him behind Robinson on my list. I heard it is out there as well, the Walker fight and even one with Tunney, but the anonymous guy won't give it up. What a bastard!

on mine as well,and that guy should get slapped.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

As for Greb's resume, tell me, how do Floyd's best wins compare?

Delaney x3
Rosenbloom
Walker
Wilson x3
Tunney x2
Loughran x5
Slattery
Flowers
Moody
Downey
Bogash
Gibbons x3
Smith x7
Norfolk
Gunboat Smith x2
McTigue x2
Levinsky x6
M. Gibbons
Meehan x2
Houck x3
Miske x3
Bartfield x4
McGoorty
McCoy x2
Dillon x2
O’Dowd
Chip x2
Crouse
Brennan x3
Clark
Blackburn

And 98% of boxing fans couldn't tell you which of those guys were better than Hatton, Corrales and castillo.

....which is why I say that comparing across eras is always an iffy exercise.

If I tell you that Manfredy would have TKO'd Loughran, what would you say? And why do you even need to fight a guy FIVE times? Should you get more credit for fighting a guy a 4th and fifth time.. or less credit? Who knows?

Yes. I know when Pernell fought. Thanks. But the reality is that the Mount Rushmore of boxing has changed LITTLE in fifty years.

[AntonTheMeh]

And 98% of boxing fans couldn't tell you which of those guys were better than Hatton, Corrales and castillo.

....which is why I say that comparing across eras is always an iffy exercise.

If I tell you that Manfredy would have TKO'd Loughran, what would you say? And why do you even need to fight a guy FIVE times? Should you get more credit for fighting a guy a 4th and fifth time.. or less credit? Who knows?

Yes. I know when Pernell fought. Thanks. But the reality is that the Mount Rushmore of boxing has changed LITTLE in fifty years.

some mickey walker


some gene tunney


not to gang up on you but,his resume is probably the greatest ever

[Sweet Pete]

And 98% of boxing fans couldn't tell you which of those guys were better than Hatton, Corrales and castillo.

....which is why I say that comparing across eras is always an iffy exercise.

If I tell you that Manfredy would have TKO'd Loughran, what would you say? And why do you even need to fight a guy FIVE times? Should you get more credit for fighting a guy a 4th and fifth time.. or less credit? Who knows?

Yes. I know when Pernell fought. Thanks. But the reality is that the Mount Rushmore of boxing has changed LITTLE in fifty years.

I'd laugh and realize I have been wasting time.

[MELLY-MEL...]

around 25ish for me!