where is floyd rank all time p4p in your opinion?

[AntonTheMeh]

Before 1984.. being a Mulitweigth Champ was worth something.. There were ONLY 8 Divisions..

1984 the IBF was the final alpahbet group to adopt the new format The WBA having done 2 years earlier.. and the WBC having done so in 1979... Though out the 80's more divisions were created to the bloated amount of 17 divisions we have today...

A 5 or 6 weight champ today.. isn't worth what it was worth historically..

And should not be given the same sway.. when judging the Multiweight champs of the past 25-30 years..

i can a gree with that.i don't take into account just that though.wins and skill level mean just as much in the discussion.

[Ray Ray]

i mean im not a hater just a realist.it would've been nice to see him unify a weight division and fight kostya that would have made his legacy clearer.

When I said I hater I wasnt talking about you homie ( guys like VIVA, JOERATCC, JOEPAL, Ect.) You're a reasonable poster. I should have been more specific. My bad if you took it the wrong way.

I think Hatton ruined the fight between Kostya and Floyd.

[Welter_Skelter]

i can a gree with that.i don't take into account just that though.wins and skill level mean just as much in the discussion.

Oh I know.. I just saw a mention of DLH's 6 weigt championships.. so i though I'd simply add this to help them put things in perspective..

If This poll was who had the most Talent.. Floyd would make my top 5...

[DLT]

IMO, it was much more impressive Roy's string of titles from 160 all the way to heavy (a much greater range than from 130 to 154), not to mention unifying the bejeebers out of light heavy (Floyd has never completely unified a title.) People are impressed with Floyd's 0, but Roy didn't really lose until he was 35 and had come back down from heavyweight (let's see Floyd go back to 130 and fight Pacquiao in a couple years.)

I totally disagree with that. You make it sound like it was 7 divisions or something but it was only 3 and then HW. He also picked Ruiz who was the weakest of all the HW guys and the ref clearly didnt allow any in-fighting which made Ruiz had to outbox RJ and we knew that wasnt going to happened. Also, he had a long stretch where none of those guys were even ranked moderatly high. You said that he cleaned out the LHW but that was one of the weakest divisions in boxing at the time. It was so weak that he would play basketball and then beat a guy or use one hand behind his back and KO and overmatched punching bag. I love RJ but you cant say jumping to those divisions was better then what Floyd did. Also, how can you compare RJ coming back down in weight to Floyd fighting Pac at 130? 1st off Pac is much better then Tarver. 2nd, its not like RJ went all they way back down to MW which would be like Floyd going down to 130.

RJ was also bigger then Floyd P4P. Floyd fought alot of guys bigger then him when he moved up in weight and alot of guys were much bigger but RJ was still like the same size as most of his opponents. Its like Pac moving up alot but he's still always the much bigger man in all of his fights

[AntonTheMeh]

When I said I hater I wasnt talking about you homie ( guys like VIVA, JOERATCC, JOEPAL, Ect.) You're a reasonable poster. I should have been more specific. My bad if you took it the wrong way.

I think Hatton ruined the fight between Kostya and Floyd.

i know

[AntonTheMeh]

[Sweet Pete]

to me hes 11-20, a win against cotto would make him top 10 in alot of peoples lists though, seriously. most people see cotto as basically the last stop, 2 undefeated prime p4p fighters in a row, one of who is the legit number 1 contender to the division (not a boogie man created by hype, you know who im talking about, or maybe you dont, since he never wins his big fights)

How in the world would that make him top 10?

Robinson, Greb, Armstrong, Langford, Ali, Duran, Leonard, Ross, Walker, Whitaker, Pep, Leonard, Louis, etc etc.

Which of those would he outrank?

[jadagod]

skill wise i'd say number 1 judging by what we've all seen but an all time great shud be remember for more then just skillz it shud by the fighters he's beat old, young, prime, weightclasses and so on, floyd's imho started out very hungry got recognized for his talent then took the easy to ATG which i still think he would be if i had took the hard way but with all the boxing fans agreein(well most)

but i still put him top 10

[Sweet Pete]

skill wise i'd say number 1 judging by what we've all seen but an all time great shud be remember for more then just skillz it shud by the fighters he's beat old, young, prime, weightclasses and so on, floyd's imho started out very hungry got recognized for his talent then took the easy to ATG which i still think he would be if i had took the hard way but with all the boxing fans agreein(well most)

but i still put him top 10

Damn this forum.

[SkillspayBills]

His career isn't over, there is still things to do so I really don't know.