Mayweather: "Cotto Knows He Can't Beat Me"

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  • larryx
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    #201
    Originally posted by RL_GMA
    If Floyd was my boss at this lavish establishment, I'd post nothing but 48 paragraphs about Floyd too...

    [IMG]http://img.***********.com/albums/v644/roblove/floydyachts.jpg[/IMG]
    now thats funny

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    • MACAQUEINBLACK
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      #202
      Originally posted by RL_GMA
      If Floyd was my boss at this lavish establishment, I'd post nothing but 48 paragraphs about Floyd too...

      [IMG]http://img.***********.com/albums/v644/roblove/floydyachts.jpg[/IMG]
      L O L


      Funny stuff.

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      • Horus
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        #203
        Originally posted by PlasticFlamingo
        Apparently he is a Man in Black. Seriously, if Cotto manages to land a world-class trainer to exploit that potential, he is due for greatness. As far as Margarito goes, he might just be one-plastered hand away from actually proving something. Anyway, if Floyd is so confident, why doesn't he finally takes the fight and pick up another belt? He won't be young forever, you know?
        Once again:

        Cotto imo will never be ready if he already admitted wasnt ready. When Floyd offer him a fight in 2006. whats change since 2006?
        He admitted he wasnt ready...thats why he never called floyd out..

        Cotto
        1. Swings wide,
        2. Waste Punches,
        3. weak chin
        4. Cant stop straight right hands or uppercuts,
        5. and is under progressing in the lateral movement department.


        For me what makes a fighter a great boxer is not just going in thier just slugging it out in a 'see who falls first' scenario.
        It is seeing some real skill and artistry in the ring.

        Cotto has all the potential in the world. But he hasnt reach it yet.
        and he showed his will to be great when he turn down a fight with floyd in 2005/2006 becuase he wasnt ready....

        what kind of great fighter does that?

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        • PlasticFlamingo
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          #204
          Originally posted by Horus
          Once again:

          Cotto imo will never be ready if he already admitted wasnt ready. When Floyd offer him a fight in 2006. whats change since 2006?
          He admitted he wasnt ready...thats why he never called floyd out..

          Cotto
          1. Swings wide,
          2. Waste Punches,
          3. weak chin
          4. Cant stop straight right hands or uppercuts,
          5. and is under progressing in the lateral movement department.


          For me what makes a fighter a great boxer is not just going in thier just slugging it out in a 'see who falls first' scenario.
          It is seeing some real skill and artistry in the ring.

          Cotto has all the potential in the world. But he hasnt reach it yet.
          and he showed his will to be great when he turn down a fight with floyd in 2005/2006 becuase he wasnt ready....

          what kind of great fighter does that?
          Well, he has actually improved in the welterweight division, he is faster and his jab has improved enough to actually throw Sugar Shane off his commonly-impecable pace, back in 2006 he was just another Kelly Pavlik-like brawler. Same goes with the chin, being able to stand 11 rounds with a plastered guy without getting KD by a punch is quite good. In any case, back in 2006 who was the bigger name in his resume, Paulie? Truth is that Floyd should stop running his mouth and finally step to it, if Cotto isn't ready we will know, but at least we would have an intriging matchup. Same goes with Sugar, Paul Williams and to a certain extent Clottey. If Floyd doesn't pursue these fights, rest assured that people will remember the last stages of his career as a feast of "could have"s.
          Last edited by PlasticFlamingo; 02-04-2009, 05:09 PM.

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          • larryx
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            #205
            run mayweather run

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            • Horus
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              #206
              Originally posted by PlasticFlamingo
              Well, he has actually improved in the welterweight division, he is faster and his jab has improved enough to actually throw Sugar Shane off his commonly-impecable pace. Same goes with the chin, being able to stand 11 rounds with a plastered guy without getting KD by a punch is quite good. In any case, back in 2006 who was the bigger name in his resume, Paulie? Truth is that Floyd should stop running his mouth and finally step to it, if Cotto isn't ready we will know, but at least we would have an intriging matchup. Same goes with Sugar, Paul Williams and to a certain extent Clottey. If Floyd doesn't pursue this fights, rest assured that people will remember the last stages of his career as a feast of "could have"s.
              Floyd is retired. Floyd is widely consider the best in his generation...what is better than that??? Nothing! i could list all his accomplishments 3 pages long ...for what though..you know what floyd has done...

              the better question is.

              Why doesnt cotto fight Paul williams, joshua clottey, and make a legacy for himself...and beat margarito if he can in a rematch....

              Cotto has always had a good jab, cotto has always had good speed....Cotto is a good fighter...real good...he is a good body puncher and works hard..

              I always say about cotto
              He has under rated ability to adapt.
              and he will come back from punishment, with offense instead of defense.

              example: Judah, Torres, Corley

              The one thing that I will openly admit about Cotto that can make him a great fighter is that. He doesn't **** around, he is focus. And that is something that every great fighter has.
              Miguel Cotto can have a legacy like Roberto Duran or Fernando Vargas.

              It's up to him.


              but my problem is Him Fighting for a vacant titles.
              It is fine if you do it rarely. But if the only time
              you win a title is against a contender for a vacant belt. Then i see it as cheating the game of boxing. Because the fighter is not willing to fight the champion for that belt or go find a champion and take his belt. But instead
              That fighter is taking the easy route to become a champion.

              This is nothing new with me, I been like this from day 1.
              ( CHECK MY THREAD HISTORY) I has always had a problem with Cotto doing this, Just because he has not done it the traditional way.

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                #207
                Originally posted by Horus
                Floyd is retired. Floyd is widely consider the best in his generation...what is better than that??? Nothing! i could list all his accomplishments 3 pages long ...for what though..you know what floyd has done...

                the better question is.

                Why doesnt cotto fight Paul williams, joshua clottey, and make a legacy for himself...and beat margarito if he can in a rematch....

                Cotto has always had a good jab, cotto has always had good speed....Cotto is a good fighter...real good...he is a good body puncher and works hard..

                I always say about cotto
                He has under rated ability to adapt.
                and he will come back from punishment, with offense instead of defense.

                example: Judah, Torres, Corley

                The one thing that I will openly admit about Cotto that can make him a great fighter is that. He doesn't **** around, he is focus. And that is something that every great fighter has.
                Miguel Cotto can have a legacy like Roberto Duran or Fernando Vargas.

                It's up to him.


                but my problem is Him Fighting for a vacant titles.
                It is fine if you do it rarely. But if the only time
                you win a title is against a contender for a vacant belt. Then i see it as cheating the game of boxing. Because the fighter is not willing to fight the champion for that belt or go find a champion and take his belt. But instead
                That fighter is taking the easy route to become a champion.

                This is nothing new with me, I been like this from day 1.
                ( CHECK MY THREAD HISTORY) I has always had a problem with Cotto doing this, Just because he has not done it the traditional way.
                "Retired" is more like it, he isn't called "Money" for nothing. Now, if Margarito is taken out of that equation due to a suspension, I would love to see a Clottey-Cotto matchup, which should be quite interesting as both guys are virtually opposites. From a realistic point of view, Cotto-Berto is closer to happening as Clottey has been pasive about calling out the other champions. The next fight for the vacant belt is really Arum's fault, who didn't pursue Cotto-Berto when it was proposed last year. Nevertheless, if Cotto has an obvious flaw is that he is too flexible with his managing, he should have demanded unification bouts back in 2007-08, hopefully that changes now.

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                • Im Horny
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                  #208
                  "part of us" - mayweather. what the fuuck dude didn't u just accused the hbo fools to be racist blah blah blah. second ur retired. third u never fought top fighters. stfu now please!!!

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                  • Horus
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                    #209
                    Originally posted by Im Horny
                    "part of us" - mayweather. what the fuuck dude didn't u just accused the hbo fools to be racist blah blah blah. second ur retired. third u never fought top fighters. stfu now please!!!
                    he accused hbo announcers of being racist...and if he never fought top fighters...

                    explained this:


                    Floyd Mayweather: Career Span ( 11 Years: In which 10 Years He was a champion)
                    • Undisputed Champion in 3 Divisions (The Ring Belt)
                    • 5 Division Champion
                    • Superfeather weight Ring Champion (Fact) (The Ring Belt)
                    • Lightweight Ring Champion (Fact) (The Ring Belt)
                    • Welterweight Ring Champion (Fact) (The Ring Belt)

                    1. Professional: 39 fights; 39+ (25 KO)
                    2. 31 Fights at 140 and under
                    3. 8 fights at 154 and under
                    4. Champion for 10 years
                    5. Champions Fought:13
                    6. Champions Fought in their prime:8
                    7. 1998-2002: W.B.C. Juniorlightweight (8 title defenses)
                    8. 2002-2003: W.B.C. Lightweight ( 3 title defense)
                    9. 2005: W.B.C. Juniorwelterweight
                    10. 2006: I.B.F. Welterweight
                    11. 2006-2008: W.B.C. Welterweight
                    12. 2007: W.B.C. Juniormiddleweights
                    13. Ring Fighter of the Year: 2 times 1998 and 2007
                    14. WBC Fighter of the year 3 times : 1998,2001,2007
                    15. World Boxing Hall of Fame’s Fighter of the Year: 2002
                    16. USA Today Fighter of the Year: 2007
                    17. Boxing Writers Association of America Fighter of the Year:2007
                    18. ESPN fighter of the year:2007
                    19. ******* Fighter Of The Year: 2007
                    20. Undefeated


                    People Say All Mayweather has Never been in any Wars with a Prime P4P Opponent:

                    But I Guess that they never seen him fight Jesus Chavez 35-1.in 2001.

                    People Say Mayweather has never fought Somebody who would have to make him fight
                    But I Guess that they never seen him fight Jose Luis Castillo 2002.

                    Jesus Chavez 35-1 (TOP 5 in the division)
                    Carlos Hernandez 33-2 (TOP 5 in the division)
                    Justin Juuko 33-2 (TOP 5 in the division)
                    Angel Manfredy 25-2 (TOP 5 in the division)
                    Carlos Gerena 34-2 (TOP 5 in the division)
                    Diego Corrales 33-0 (CHAMPION IN THE DIVISION) Top 5 p4p
                    Genaro Hernandez 38-1(CHAMPION IN THE DIVISION)
                    Jose Luis Castillo (CHAMPION IN THE DIVISION)



                    I have one question?
                    Since 2006 to the Present
                    Who is the RING magazine Ring Champion of the
                    Welter Weight Division?

                    Meaning Who iS The current or last undisputed King of the WelterWeight Division?

                    The answer is..................(DRUMROLL)

                    Vacant.!!


                    There is no recognize champion at the Welterweight division.
                    The Last Universally Recognize champion with the RING BELT.

                    Floyd Mayweather...




                    The Ring's titles are all you need to pay attention to. I'm a firm believer that their champions are the only true champions

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                    • savorduhflavor
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                      #210
                      Cotto isn't the prototypical pressure fighter, which is why I think he has the best chance to beat Mayweather.

                      I think Mayweather would win, don't get me wrong, but I feel like styles wise Cotto would give him some problems.....why? His jab. One of the things that makes Floyd so great is his timing, and Cotto showed against Mosley how he can counteract speed and timing with his jab, it's quick, straight, and very authoritative.

                      That being said, I don't see Cotto beating him. I think it would be an 8-4 type decision with some competitive rounds. It would probably look something like the Oscar fight, maybe a little closer(that SD was a joke).

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